Who do you not want the Chiefs to draft?

[RunKC]

We’ve all talked about guys we love and want to draft, but who is on your “I will not be happy if the Chiefs draft them?” list?

Gonna add onto this but so far I have:

Shemar Stewart
Cameron Williams
Tyliek Williams
Kaleb Johnson
Marcus Mbow
Tyler Booker

[smithandrew051]

Josh Simmons.

Zero chance I’ll feel he’s the BPA at 31. He may prove to be, but no way I’ll feel that on draft night.

[kcbubb]

Interesting info on the patella tendon tear. This injury has a bad track record of recovery but it seems like surgical techniques are improving and Simmons is young. I can understand passing on Simmons for this injury. But he seems to be moving well now and if the team and drs think he can play, I’d be excited if the chiefs picked him.

Nakobe Dean tear
https://youtu.be/qJaSJNqT634

Lucas Niang tear
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2022/...tential-return

[Dunerdr]

Skattebo. He didn't do anything that matters to me at the combine. I think he's a limited athlete who kind of caught lighting in a bottle. I think all athletes peak at different times. I think he's at his peak with a Peyton Hillis'esque run here in college and will be mediocre in the NFL. This probably isn't popular because I know a lot of guys like him, it think better backs will be taken two rounds after him.

[kccrow]

You have Tyleik Williams as a don't want? Man alive that's a surprise and one I just can't support. Dude is an absolute one-man wrecking crew against the run and actually provides a little pass rush. He's a better player than Grant is right now, it's just the upside with Grant as a pass rusher is a little higher. We all know how upside works though.

I don't agree on Mbow either, he's a prototypical conversion from OT to OG in a zone scheme and a very, very good player. He needs some sand in his pants but that will come in time.

I'd say I agree with most of the rest of your list, actually.
Shemar Stewart is the one I'd be absolutely pissed at us drafting. I'm not too keen on James Pearce either but I could live with it I suppose. Not too high on Harold Fannin Jr either.

[el borracho]

Not Josh Simmons because of injury.

Not Skattebo because of size and playing style. Generally speaking really prefer they don't take any RB less than 5'10."

No WR or RB that lacks athletic measurable (height, weight, speed).

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Not Josh Simmons because of injury.

Not Skattebo because of size and playing style. Generally speaking really prefer they don't take any RB less than 5'10."

No WR or RB that lacks athletic measurable (height, weight, speed).

I can't really bring myself to give a shit about a RB's height. I just don't care.

[In58men]

I’m leery on Josh Simmons, I think I would pass if he’s there at 31.

[staylor26]

What I don't understand about the people saying Josh Simmons is that if the Chiefs do in fact take him, they're clearly 100% confident with the medicals. If this is simply about the injury, I don't understand putting him on the list.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What I don't understand about the people saying Josh Simmons is that if the Chiefs do in fact take him, they're clearly 100% confident with the medicals. If this is simply about the injury, I don't understand putting him on the list.

Because they can't be 100% confident in his medicals.

Nobody can.

They simply have a larger appetite for risk and/or believe the reward to be high enough to justify it.

I wouldn't, in all likelihood.

But you could show an MRI of a completely successful knee surgery with a totally 'healed' Patella and it still wouldn't answer the questions that actually need to be answered. Happens all the time that guys get hurt and they 'heal' and go through full recovery and are medically cleared and they're just...not the same guy.

And you will not - can not - know until they start to play.

This is one of those odd instances where I don't think you need any sort of information asymmetry in order to reach different conclusions.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Because they can't be 100% confident in his medicals.

Nobody can.

They simply have a larger appetite for risk and/or believe the reward to be high enough to justify it.

I wouldn't, in all likelihood.

But you could show an MRI of a completely successful knee surgery with a totally 'healed' Patella and it still wouldn't answer the questions that actually need to be answered. Happens all the time that guys get hurt and they 'heal' and go through full recovery and are medically cleared and they're just...not the same guy.

And you will not - can not - know until they start to play.

This is one of those odd instances where I don't think you need any sort of information asymmetry in order to reach different conclusions.

Maybe 100% is hyperbole, but they aren't taking him at 31 unless they're extremely confident. They know a lot more than we do and it's extremely odd that so many aren't willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with a very talented player. How had Burkholder and his team not earned the benefit of the doubt?

I understand being concerned, but hating the pick even if they sign off? It just reeks of not knowing what you don't know. Sorry.

[staylor26]

The Trey Smith situation is what makes me believe they have to be extremely confident to take Simmons at 31. They waited and waited, and you know they still had to have felt pretty damn good about Trey's situation. They sounded extremely confident after making the pick and it obviously all worked out. That tells me they're cautious and won't be reckless.

I get being concerned, but I'm going to to be cautiously optimistic if they take a top 15 caliber talent at 31 and possibly fill LT once and for all. I don't get the hate at all.

[Warpaint69]

Originally Posted by kccrow

You have Tyleik Williams as a don't want? Man alive that's a surprise and one I just can't support. Dude is an absolute one-man wrecking crew against the run and actually provides a little pass rush. He's a better player than Grant is right now, it's just the upside with Grant as a pass rusher is a little higher. We all know how upside works though.

I don't agree on Mbow either, he's a prototypical conversion from OT to OG in a zone scheme and a very, very good player. He needs some sand in his pants but that will come in time.

I'd say I agree with most of the rest of your list, actually.
Shemar Stewart is the one I'd be absolutely pissed at us drafting. I'm not too keen on James Pearce either but I could live with it I suppose. Not too high on Harold Fannin Jr either.

You described Tyleik Williams as a player the Chiefs defense currently needs. Need a space eater who can get a little pass rush

[kccrow]

Of course, the injury is going to heal. It's going to be just fine from a medical standpoint. That's NOT the issue with this injury.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Of course, the injury is going to heal. It's going to be just fine from a medical standpoint. That's NOT the issue with this injury.

Yes, but the injury didn't happen yesterday. The recovery process began a while ago. They get to see this guy up close, and he's already moving around laterally. Our medical staff is as good as it gets, is it not?

Why is it so hard to say the Chiefs and their medical staff will know A LOT more than we do? It's just a matter of fact.

If they truly have no ****ing clue, he won't be the pick at 31.