Chiefs PFF: Poor game from Fisher - Page 26

Hammock Parties · 08-18-2013, 03:49 PM

Yup. Very poor game.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...reseason-wk-2/

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I’m not in the business of making excuses for someone, but how bad is the hand of Eric Fisher (-4.5)? I ask because his performance was of such a level and he seemed to be favoring his hand so often, that the question had to be asked: are the Chiefs doing the right thing getting him game time as opposed to letting him heal?

He had to leave the field after Will Tukuafu got the better of him with 4:05 to go in the first and yet he would return to finish out the first half. That wasn’t the only time he struggled as Ray McDonald was too powerful for him at the point of attack on the opening drive, having no problem working on his inside shoulder and getting off his blocking attempts.

In pass protection, Parys Haralson (hurry and sack), Corey Lemonier (hurry) and Ahmad Brooks (hurry with an assist from some hands to the face) all got past him, while he failed on two occasions to execute cut blocks on stretch runs.

More is expected of the first overall pick.

**BossChief** · 08-20-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LOCOChief

As a fan it's entirely acceptable to critique any player at anytime. There's a lot of intangibles that you seem to overlook when looking at nothing but stats. We have no idea of what we have yet, none. You didn't see anything in his performance to date the will provide you any insite into what kind of player he will prove to be. The Oline will take a little time always does, it's just they way it is.

Funny.

All I heard all offseason was "you don't take projects in the top ten, you take players that can help you win games right away"

The excuses are already rolling in because that's what we are used to.

It's just sad that we took a project right tackle with the first overall pick in the whole draft.

Hammock Parties · 08-20-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

What did Bruce Mathews do his frist pro game? How about his rookie season? What about his 2nd season? WARNING - THE ANSWERS DO NOT FIT YOUR NARRIATIVE...

"Every bad player might actually be good because other good players were bad at one point."

- Homers, Est. 1960

Kiimo · 08-20-2013, 08:14 PM

As opposed to who? Milliner? Because you don't take a corner either. And you definitely don't take a third round quarterback.

LOCOChief · 08-20-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

No one is looking at stats.

We're looking at footage of Eric Fisher getting DESTROYED.

That's not in reference to Fisher. I watched the same game you did and won't argue that he wasn't destroyed. You've seen nothing from Fisher yet that give you the slightest inclination as to what type of player he will be. none.

**BossChief** · 08-20-2013, 08:23 PM

If we were dead set on upgrading the line, then trade back (taking a second if that all that's offered) and take whoever if left out of Fisher, Johnson, Joeckel, Cooper, Aarmack.

Impact players?

Ansah, Austin, Mingo, Patterson, Richardson, Jordan, etc.

Staying out at 1 and taking a project right tackle was just flat out stupid.

I don't want to hear the bullshit excuses.

It was a waste of resources.

Kiimo · 08-20-2013, 08:27 PM

Sitting here trying to think of who was available in this draft that anybody would trade into the first spot for.

It's also funny that Jacksonville did the exact same thing as the Chiefs. You are overreacting big time.

LOCOChief · 08-20-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If we were dead set on upgrading the line, then trade back (taking a second if that all that's offered) and take whoever if left out of Fisher, Johnson, Joeckel, Cooper, Aarmack.

Impact players?

Ansah, Austin, Mingo, Patterson, Richardson, Jordan, etc.

Staying out at 1 and taking a project right tackle was just flat out stupid.

I don't want to hear the bullshit excuses.

It was a waste of resources.

What's done is done no excuses made I didn't make the pick but the picks in man RT @ 1.1 . But like the pick or not calling it a bust after 2 preseason games is dumb.

Hammock Parties · 08-20-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LOCOChief

That's not in reference to Fisher. I watched the same game you did and won't argue that he wasn't destroyed. You've seen nothing from Fisher yet that give you the slightest inclination as to what type of player he will be. none.

I guess.

He better straighten up and start shitting me tiffany cufflinks soon, though, or he's going to be a GIF'D UP legend.

O.city · 08-20-2013, 08:29 PM

Where are you getting that he's a project right tackle?

He was the best left tackle prospect in the draft, the mistake if you want to argue that there was one, was not moving Albert if your gonna take fisher.

Now, the guy is hurt and learning a new position.

And if you want to scream trade back, that's fine, but if you want to argue that some of those guys are such impact players, why was there no one knocking down the door to trade up for one?

**BossChief** · 08-20-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

No, I'm just not overly concerned that our 4th corner is going to be that imperative to the success of this football team at this point.

You ranted and raved about how you wanted this attacking defense and this and that, then they go do it, but they don't draft a qb first overall who's ceiling at this point is the qb we currently have on the roster as our starter and you are all up in arms.

Our 4th corner?

How about our third corner?

In case you haven't noticed, every single team in the NFL runs 3 and 4 wide sets all game long.

A third corner is a borderline starter and if Flowers or Smith go down, we are in huge trouble on the back end.

No big deal though, right?

It's only preseason.

RunKC · 08-20-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Funny.

All I heard all offseason was "you don't take projects in the top ten, you take players that can help you win games right away"

The excuses are already rolling in because that's what we are used to.

It's just sad that we took a project right tackle with the first overall pick in the whole draft.

Then who were we supposed to take, oh wise one? The project scrub QB that 32 teams passed over, some who passed twice?

LOCOChief · 08-20-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

I guess.

He better straighten up and start shitting me tiffany cufflinks soon, though, or he's going to be a GIF'D UP legend.

Oh I think he'll give you plenty of material for a long time.

O.city · 08-20-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Our 4th corner?

How about our third corner?

In case you haven't noticed, every single team in the NFL runs 3 and 4 wide sets all game long.

A third corner is a borderline starter and if Flowers or Smith go down, we are in huge trouble on the back end.

No big deal though, right?

It's only preseason.

I'm talking about brown.

Tell me then, who is the giants third corner? The Seahawks have the best secondary in the league, who's their 3 cb?

If you're banking on winning or losing in your 3rd corner, we've got bigger problems than that.

Hammock Parties · 08-20-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Where are you getting that he's a project right tackle?

If he's not, we're in a world of shit.

LOCOChief · 08-20-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

If he's not, we're in a world of shit.

That's right, they're all project.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-525936	Where are you getting that he's a project right tackle? He was the best left tackle prospect in the draft, the mistake if you want to argue that there was one, was not moving Albert if your gonna take fisher. Now, the guy is hurt and learning a new position. And if you want to scream trade back, that's fine, but if you want to argue that some of those guys are such impact players, why was there no one knocking down the door to trade up for one?
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