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Old 08-18-2013, 03:49 PM  
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PFF: Poor game from Fisher
Yup. Very poor game.

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I’m not in the business of making excuses for someone, but how bad is the hand of Eric Fisher (-4.5)? I ask because his performance was of such a level and he seemed to be favoring his hand so often, that the question had to be asked: are the Chiefs doing the right thing getting him game time as opposed to letting him heal?

He had to leave the field after Will Tukuafu got the better of him with 4:05 to go in the first and yet he would return to finish out the first half. That wasn’t the only time he struggled as Ray McDonald was too powerful for him at the point of attack on the opening drive, having no problem working on his inside shoulder and getting off his blocking attempts.

In pass protection, Parys Haralson (hurry and sack), Corey Lemonier (hurry) and Ahmad Brooks (hurry with an assist from some hands to the face) all got past him, while he failed on two occasions to execute cut blocks on stretch runs.

More is expected of the first overall pick.
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:48 PM   #121
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So why did we take him number 1?
Say it with me, potential. Therefore, can we let it play out and see if that ceiling is reached? **** no we can't. CP must bitch!
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:50 PM   #122
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He is switching positions as a rookie in a shortened training camp, we are only 2 weeks into the preseason, and is apparently playing hurt. And we all knew that after having played at Central Michigan, there would be a learning curve.

I agree that the guy has to be nothing short of pro bowler, and he still won't live up to being 1.1. I get all that stuff. I'm not crazy about taking a RT at 1.1 either. I just can't stand the agendas that people are using a game this early in the preseason to drive an "I told you so" agenda. The kid deserves a reasonable amount of time to prove what he can do. The idea that he HAS to be a great player from the get-go... who really cares if he is? We're not winning the Super Bowl this year.
Hey we brought Alex in to win now. We shored up the line with the best available player. No messy rookie QB learning curve. We have a veteran QB our HC pined for and a line chock full of first round talent to protect him.

We should be aiming for the post season and the Superbowl. That's what these moves were made for.
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:50 PM   #123
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I am fine with Fisher out of the players who were available at the top of the draft.
Fine with drafting a tackle #1 overall to replace Albert.

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So why did we take him number 1?
I am not a fan of taking any RT at 1.1. Or that high in the first round in general.

But the idea that Fisher ends up being a shitty pick if he ends up as a pro bowler in year 2 or 3, but struggles in his first starts, is just plain ludicrous. Why is it so critical to be a star from game 1?
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Say it with me, potential. Therefore, can we let it play out and see if that ceiling is reached? **** no we can't. CP must bitch!
What potential does Fisher have in helping the Chiefs win a SB?

Do you think the recent SB winners give a **** about one of the best, if not the best, tackle playing for the Browns?
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:52 PM   #126
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Fine with drafting a tackle #1 overall to replace Albert.

Well, if I accept your premise that Albert is leaving, having a need at LT is worthy of a #1 pick, certainly.
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Well, if I accept your premise that Albert is leaving, having a need at LT is worthy of a #1 pick, certainly.
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He is switching positions as a rookie in a shortened training camp, we are only 2 weeks into the preseason, and is apparently playing hurt. And we all knew that after having played at Central Michigan, there would be a learning curve.

I agree that the guy has to be nothing short of pro bowler, and he still won't live up to being 1.1. I get all that stuff. I'm not crazy about taking a RT at 1.1 either. I just can't stand the agendas that people are using a game this early in the preseason to drive an "I told you so" agenda. The kid deserves a reasonable amount of time to prove what he can do. The idea that he HAS to be a great player from the get-go... who really cares if he is? We're not winning the Super Bowl this year.
Nobody has said "I told us so" in this thread. In fact the only ones bringing up any other draft option are the"true fans". Fisher is being evaluated. The evaluations are pretty fair to boot.
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Im not calling him a bust by any means, but the dude has looked about as bad as any 1st round pick we've had, Tyson Jackson included.
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Dorsey thought he had Albert sold off and was dead wrong. Now the line has the most talent I've seen in nearly a decade. They should perform like it.
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What potential does Fisher have in helping the Chiefs win a SB?

Do you think the recent SB winners give a **** about one of the best, if not the best, tackle playing for the Browns?
What the **** does it matter what I think? The pick was made. Maybe it won't work out maybe it will, but to bitch at this moment is premature. Who knows what he brings to this team, but let's keep up the dog pile mentality and all circle jerk each other while we complain. That fixes everything.
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I seriously laugh my as of at anyone who assumes Albert is gone.
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What the **** does it matter what I think? The pick was made. Maybe it won't work out maybe it will, but to bitch at this moment is premature. Who knows what he brings to this team, but let's keep up the dog pile mentality and all circle jerk each other while we complain. That fixes everything.
Are we not suppose to take note about how bad he's been playing? Or are we suppose to notice it and just be quiet about it on a forum?
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Are we not suppose to take note about how bad he's been playing? Or are we suppose to notice it and just be quiet about it on a forum?
Just shutup and put on the beer goggles! 10 wins minimum! We are going to the ship!
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Nobody has said "I told us so" in this thread. In fact the only ones bringing up any other draft option are the"true fans". Fisher is being evaluated. The evaluations are pretty fair to boot.
He is being evaluated by people pushing an agenda.

The same people calling him a pussy for a possible injury are the same ones not speaking a word about guys like Geno and Mingo also being injured this preseason. The same people who (even if they didn't want to draft a RT) blasted picking Joeckl over Fisher because he was safer, are the same ones bitching that Fisher is less NFL-ready than Joeckl.

If you want to evaluate Fisher play-by-play, great, let's have that discussion. But it's never going to be a discussion if there are people that set this unrealistic expectation that he has to be some star, injury-free player from the get-go, which everybody knew he was not going to be.
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