Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 622

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

CaliforniaChief · 08-12-2013, 09:06 AM

I'm a little worried about this next series, not so much out of fear of overlooking the Marlins, but because of the pitching.

Wade Davis always scares me, and then we have to face Fernandez tomorrow.

WhawhaWhat · 08-12-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I'm a little worried about this next series, not so much out of fear of overlooking the Marlins, but because of the pitching.

Wade Davis always scares me, and then we have to face Fernandez tomorrow.

I'm going to the game tomorrow because I want to see Fernandez pitch. His season has been outstanding and he just turned 21.

Hope the Royals bomb him though.

mr. tegu · 08-12-2013, 09:44 AM

So with Cain out for a few weeks Lough needs to be playing basically everyday. When Maxwell plays Lough should be in center and Maxwell in RF and when Dyson plays he can be in center and Lough in RF. There is no reason for Lough to not be playing 5-6 games a week.

KevB · 08-12-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Those look ridiculous.

What's funny is that I don't think we're playing our best baseball yet, either. We left the bases loaded with 1 out in the 8th. Still having baserunning mistakes. We're down 2 starters. Our ace is a little off right now.

Ervin didn't have his slider for the first time this year, Shields wasn't in top form, Cain got hurt, Salvy only played one game of the series ---- see, excuses are fun and everyone has them. You either win or you lose Gomes, and you're a loser.

Great Expectations · 08-12-2013, 09:54 AM

It's a lot of fun to see these types of articles:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...ontinue-rising

TomBarndtsTwin · 08-12-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OmahaChief

"They're hot," Gomes said. "We've been hot. They gave us their best bullet and beat us by one run. It wasn't our best bullet. You saw that, but we're still hanging in there."

Eff Gomes. I hate Boston.

Ahh, the perennial regurgitated lame excuse . . . . .

Well, no sh*t, Sherlock, of course it wasn't your best game . . . you lost!

The Royals have had at least 54 of their 'not best bullets' so far this year.

Dumbass.

I hate Boston. Go run in a marathon, Jonny.

Mr. Arrowhead · 08-12-2013, 10:09 AM

David Ortiz comments after the game yesterday:

“Man, they would be tough to play for somebody in the playoffs,” he said. “They have a lot of talent. Those young guns are coming after people. Look at what they did to us.”

Cephalic Trauma · 08-12-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

David Ortiz comments after the game yesterday:

“Man, they would be tough to play for somebody in the playoffs,” he said. “They have a lot of talent. Those young guns are coming after people. Look at what they did to us.”

This means way more to me than anything journeyman jonny gomes says.

**DeezNutz** · 08-12-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

David Ortiz comments after the game yesterday:

“Man, they would be tough to play for somebody in the playoffs,” he said. “They have a lot of talent. Those young guns are coming after people. Look at what they did to us.”

(Raises a telephone Ortiz's way)

Fansy the Famous Bard · 08-12-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

(Raises a telephone Ortiz's way)

careful now.

chiefqueen · 08-12-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I was a little disappointed by the attendance over the weekend, and am fully preparing for a sub 20,000 crowd for the Miami series.

But let's paint the whole picture. Ratings in KC are through the roof and just seem to be growing. The fans are buying in...there's just a new dynamic of HD and the comfort of home that saves a lot of money for a lot of middle class people who don't have much discretionary income. I'm confident that if we get to September and we're still there, the crowds will continue to grow.

I agree with your assessment b/c school is starting in most of the metro area this week and that usually drives attendance down.

Prison Bitch · 08-12-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefqueen

I agree with your assessment b/c school is starting in most of the metro area this week and that usually drives attendance down.

We couldn't even get 30K on a beautiful friday night for Boston's only trip to KC, them leading MLB in wins and us on a major hot streak. This market is questionable at best supporting MLB

Three7s · 08-12-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

We couldn't even get 30K on a beautiful friday night for Boston's only trip to KC, them leading MLB in wins and us on a major hot streak. This market is questionable at best supporting MLB

I think televising the game has something to do with it. Though, why anyone would want to torture themselves listening to Hudler is beyond me......

Deberg_1990 · 08-12-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

I think televising the game has something to do with it. Though, why anyone would want to torture themselves listening to Hudler is beyond me......

This has alot to so with it and I keep saying it over and over. Back when the Royals were really good every year, the home games were rarely televised. its a different era now. Teams rely alot on tv contracts.
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Chiefspants · 08-12-2013, 12:54 PM

Guys, if we're managing to snag record attendance for KC sporting, I think this market has proven that it will show up in droves to see a winner. If The Royals prove that they can be a contender come September, we will see attendance continue to rise.

27 years of futility is not going to be undone by 20 games.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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