Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 610

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Prison Bitch · 08-09-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

I was mulling something along this lines last night... possibly re-calling Will Smith to pitch tonight or tomorrow, then duffy again on Sunday... Using the heck out of Bueno, Teaford, Collins and possibly even Joseph against Boston's Lineup.

The RedSox Team OPS vs LHP is .715 as opposed to RHP which is .819. Try and neutralize Lefthanded batters Ellsbury, Carp, Ortiz, Holt, and Drew, as well as Switch Hitters Saltalphabet (.551 vs LHP / .864 vs RHP) and Nava (.608 vs LHP / .854 vs RHP). Even Napoli's and Gomes' splits are worse against LHP.

Stack it up.

Your numbers prove the thesis. They'll never do it, but they should. I'd let Smith get the start Sunday.

CaliforniaChief · 08-09-2013, 09:05 AM

Yes, I believe he can come back Sunday if all checks out.

CaliforniaChief · 08-09-2013, 09:12 AM

One more note. I may be wrong, but it appears that Bruce Chen's emergence in the rotation has had a major benefit for Ervin Santana. I believe Santana has followed Chen in the rotation since the ASB (4 starts).

In those 4 starts, Santana is 4-0 with an ERA of 1.27, 22K/7BB, and a WHIP of 0.882.

I wonder if the change of speed coming off Chen is helping Santana.

CaliforniaChief · 08-09-2013, 09:17 AM

Oh yeah, and speaking of Santana...

Ervin Santana ‏@ErvinSantana_54 19m
Thou hast seen nothing yet. #MigueldeCervantes #SecondHalfIsOurs

I love him. He called his shot at the ASB and is backing it the hell up.

**ChiTown** · 08-09-2013, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

One more note. I may be wrong, but it appears that Bruce Chen's emergence in the rotation has had a major benefit for Ervin Santana. I believe Santana has followed Chen in the rotation since the ASB (4 starts).

In those 4 starts, Santana is 4-0 with an ERA of 1.27, 22K/7BB, and a WHIP of 0.882.

I wonder if the change of speed coming off Chen is helping Santana.

I hadn't thought about that, but that is an interesting perspective.

WhawhaWhat · 08-09-2013, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

One more note. I may be wrong, but it appears that Bruce Chen's emergence in the rotation has had a major benefit for Ervin Santana. I believe Santana has followed Chen in the rotation since the ASB (4 starts).

In those 4 starts, Santana is 4-0 with an ERA of 1.27, 22K/7BB, and a WHIP of 0.882.

I wonder if the change of speed coming off Chen is helping Santana.

I hope Chen comes back again next season. He is a great swing man.

KevB · 08-09-2013, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

That lineup sure looks toothless without Ortiz in there. It seems worse against LH pitchers for sure. I'd be quite tempted to push Shields back an extra day to rest his arm a tad, not pitch in 88 degree humidity, face good LH hitters Boston has. And just let him get Miami on Monday night.

If Yost tried to push Shields start back from Boston to Miami, there would be a physical altercation in the clubhouse.

Especially the way Shields pitched in his last outing. I'm sure he's chomping at the bit to get back out there.

Coogs · 08-09-2013, 11:25 AM

Baseball vs football record wise. See what you think.

Most wins in a 162 game season... 116

Least wins in a 162 game season... 43

116 - 43 = 73

73 / 16 = 4.5

Baseball wins first = Football record

43 = 0 - 16
47.5 = 1 - 15
54 = 2 - 14
58.5 = 3 - 13
63 = 4 - 12
67.5 = 5 - 11
72 = 6 - 10
76.5 = 7 - 9
81 = 8 - 8
85.5 = 9 - 7
90 = 10 - 6
94.5 = 11 - 5
99 = 12 - 4
103.5 = 13 - 3
108 = 14 - 2
112.5 = 15 - 1
116 = 16 - 0

Seems pretty close in the fact that if the Royals win 90 games they will probably be right on the playoff boarder line... just as the Chiefs might be if we get to 10 - 6. Both records should get us in, but you never know for sure.

CoMoChief · 08-09-2013, 11:38 AM

**** YOU BOSTON!!!!!

**ChiTown** · 08-09-2013, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

**** YOU BOSTON!!!!!

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WhawhaWhat · 08-09-2013, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

Baseball vs football record wise. See what you think.

Most wins in a 162 game season... 116

Least wins in a 162 game season... 43

116 - 43 = 73

73 / 16 = 4.5

Baseball wins first = Football record

43 = 0 - 16
47.5 = 1 - 15
54 = 2 - 14
58.5 = 3 - 13
63 = 4 - 12
67.5 = 5 - 11
72 = 6 - 10
76.5 = 7 - 9
81 = 8 - 8
85.5 = 9 - 7
90 = 10 - 6
94.5 = 11 - 5
99 = 12 - 4
103.5 = 13 - 3
108 = 14 - 2
112.5 = 15 - 1
116 = 16 - 0

Seems pretty close in the fact that if the Royals win 90 games they will probably be right on the playoff boarder line... just as the Chiefs might be if we get to 10 - 6. Both records should get us in, but you never know for sure.

siberian khatru · 08-09-2013, 12:05 PM

Rangers have traded for Alex Rios

siberian khatru · 08-09-2013, 12:08 PM

Also Delmon Young DFA'd

Cephalic Trauma · 08-09-2013, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Rangers have traded for Alex Rios

I think the Rangers are going to make the playoffs, whether it be the WC or division. They play the weakest schedule of all, and there's no way they lose ground with that rotation. We can only hope that Oakland becomes chokeland. It's probable given their schedule.

siberian khatru · 08-09-2013, 12:14 PM

Thursday’s Royals win over Boston was the highest-rated Royals game ever on FOX Sports Kansas City, shattering the previous record set Monday.

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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CaliforniaChief #RIPAce Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $10715899	One more note. I may be wrong, but it appears that Bruce Chen's emergence in the rotation has had a major benefit for Ervin Santana. I believe Santana has followed Chen in the rotation since the ASB (4 starts). In those 4 starts, Santana is 4-0 with an ERA of 1.27, 22K/7BB, and a WHIP of 0.882. I wonder if the change of speed coming off Chen is helping Santana.
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Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2025651	Baseball vs football record wise. See what you think. Most wins in a 162 game season... 116 Least wins in a 162 game season... 43 116 - 43 = 73 73 / 16 = 4.5 Baseball wins first = Football record 43 = 0 - 16 47.5 = 1 - 15 54 = 2 - 14 58.5 = 3 - 13 63 = 4 - 12 67.5 = 5 - 11 72 = 6 - 10 76.5 = 7 - 9 81 = 8 - 8 85.5 = 9 - 7 90 = 10 - 6 94.5 = 11 - 5 99 = 12 - 4 103.5 = 13 - 3 108 = 14 - 2 112.5 = 15 - 1 116 = 16 - 0 Seems pretty close in the fact that if the Royals win 90 games they will probably be right on the playoff boarder line... just as the Chiefs might be if we get to 10 - 6. Both records should get us in, but you never know for sure.
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