Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 601

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

CaliforniaChief · 08-07-2013, 01:48 PM

Sorry, didn't see your reply seaofred.

WhawhaWhat · 08-07-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay

I couldn't stand him either at first but he grows on you to the point to where you look forward to some of the crazy stuff that comes out of his mouth.

It think Hud against the usually straight man Ryan is a pretty good team. Ryan is good at feeding into Hud's schtick and letting him hang sometimes too.

I also thought Frank White was boring.

**RockChalk** · 08-07-2013, 02:23 PM

Count me in as one who doesn't mind Hud. He can get a little annoying from time-to-time, but he plays the "dumb jock" behind the mic role well.

Demonpenz · 08-07-2013, 02:43 PM

Hudler is pretty good at get people talking. Frank White suuuucked.

teedubya · 08-07-2013, 02:52 PM

I used to hate Hud... but now, I've grown accustomed to hearing his stupid schtick and having Ryan letting him hang himself. It's pretty hilarious.

seaofred · 08-07-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Sorry, didn't see your reply seaofred.

Not a problem. I actually think we posted pretty close to the same time.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-07-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Shields has averaged 221.3 IP/yr the past 6 years. Therefore, I have no earthly idea what you're possibly disagreeing with here.

1) Shields was younger than Halladay at the time of wear
2) He went over 220 two times in that span.
3) Halladay averaged 237 innings per year

CaliforniaChief · 08-07-2013, 05:43 PM

Not really Royals-related, but we had talked about Chase Utley before the deadline. Utley and the Phils reach agreement on 2-year extension worth somewhere between 25-30 million, per Ken Rosenthal.

Prison Bitch · 08-07-2013, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

1) Shields was younger than Halladay at the time of wear
2) He went over 220 two times in that span.
3) Halladay averaged 237 innings per year

I will assume you missed the part about him being re-signed in free agency. I was talking about him 2 years from now when he's 33 and coming off 8 straight 200+ IP seasons.

TambaBerry · 08-07-2013, 09:24 PM

Why is Coleman not our set up guy?

**Shogun** · 08-07-2013, 09:28 PM

Bring the Red Sox! Bad news for them!

sedated · 08-07-2013, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun

Bring the Red Sox! Bad news for them!

Please change your sig gif

**Shogun** · 08-07-2013, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated

Please change your sig gif

Its good luck.

**KcMizzou** · 08-07-2013, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Hudler is pretty good at get people talking. Frank White suuuucked.

Hudler>White. Not kidding. Hud's a dumbass, but at least he's enthusiastic.

-King- · 08-07-2013, 10:00 PM

I don't mind Hud. I think most other teams announcers are pretty shitty to be honest. Him and Ryan make a pretty good and interesting team.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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