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Old 08-01-2013, 05:14 PM  
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Geno Smith outplaying Mark Sanchez
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CORTLAND, N.Y. -- Rookie Geno Smith has outplayed Mark Sanchez through the first week of training camp, pulling even or perhaps ahead in the New York Jets' quarterback competition.

"He can do more" than Sanchez, one veteran said Wednesday, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

It was Sanchez's turn to lead the starting unit and he struggled, throwing an interception for the second straight practice. Smith has yet to throw an interception in team drills over the first five practices.

It's premature to anoint a starter -- after all, they haven't begun live tackling -- but the early development is noteworthy because people close to the team expected Sanchez, based on his experience, to look sharper than Smith at the outset. That hasn't been the case.

"Everybody gets enamored with the guy who throws a 96 mph fastball," coach Rex Ryan said of Smith. To be politically correct, Ryan quickly added, "But Mark certainly has a good enough arm to play in this league."

It didn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Sanchez declined to say whether he believes he's leading the competition.

"I don't know, ask the coaches," he said. "I feel good, though. I feel confident. I feel like I'm playing really well."

Smith has sparkled with his accuracy, but he tends to hold the ball too long when facing pressure, according to Ryan. That, he said, "concerns me a little bit." The organization knows what it has in Sanchez, who was benched late last season.

Privately, the hope is that Smith can master the offense and seize the starting job. Even if he doesn't win it, Smith will be involved in the offense. Even though Tim Tebow is gone, Ryan said he remains committed to running the ball from the quarterback position.

He's intrigued by Smith's running ability, which would give the Jets a run-pass option at the quarterback position. Ryan acknowledged the plan, admitting last year's strategy under former coordinator Tony Sparano was ill-conceived. They never trusted Tebow to throw the ball. Whenever they used him, it usually was a read-option running play between the tackles.

"I think if that's the only thing you do with that position, why don't you just leave a running back in, a guy that's trained to do it?" Ryan said, second-guessing last season's approach. "If you're going to have a quarterback do it, like a (Colin) Kaepernick or somebody like that, it becomes more of a weapon because you know it's not just Tebow coming and he's going to run the ball. That's kind of where we were last year."

Ryan laughed when asked if he plans to use the Wildcat (or read-option) more than last year. Tebow finished with 32 rushes, averaging only 3.2 yards per carry.

"We probably will because, you guys say it, we never used it," he said. "So I would say, yeah, I think that will be part of what we do."

In the Wildcat, the ball is snapped to a nonquarterback. In those situations, the Jets can utilize wide receiver Jeremy Kerley or a running back, probably Bilal Powell. When Smith is on the field, either as the starter or a change-of-pace quarterback, they can employ the read-option.

The presence of new quarterbacks coach David Lee, one of the Wildcat innovators, is another reason the team is planning to use it. Sanchez said he could run the read-option, but there's little chance of that happening. His running ability will forever be linked to the "Butt Fumble," when he ran into a lineman's rear end last season.

Smith's athleticism could be a factor in the quarterback decision. Sanchez acknowledged that Smith is "very talented when it comes to that stuff. But I can't worry about it." Sanchez joked about the quarterback competition, mentioning that he sees more front-office types on the field for practice, scribbling notes during routine drills.

He said it reminds him of his rookie year in 2009, when he won the job against Kellen Clemens.

"For you (reporters), it's your job, but it's funny to see everybody else charting stuff," he said. "Everything is under scrutiny. There's a ton of pressure. That's the way you like it; that's the way you play this position."
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:05 PM   #46
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Just another "fluff" article. This one happens to be about the QB that wasn't worthy.
If this article would have been about any current Chief the OP would have been all about how it is just a fluff piece nobody is in pads and all that.
But go ahead and feel like you are fooling someone other than yourself. Dipshit.
People were pretty quick to post about his poor showing at otAs.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:11 PM   #47
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I don't think Geno is as talented as those two, I was making the point we see more streaky QB's in the modern era that can get hot hand etc.

Jim D was an idiot, Brooks is a good comparison to Geno Smith. I think Geno could become a NFL QB paired with the right coaching, like say these WCO guys, but I don't know if Marty M is a good match up. it's not at all a sure thing. GS was horrible against TT last season and he never seemed to recover. he struggles to read zone defense, can be hesitant and he does make too many bad throws when guys are wide open. he's got a long way to go.
I think he is a Brooks clone.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:36 PM   #48
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I don't think Geno is as talented as those two, I was making the point we see more streaky QB's in the modern era that can get hot hand etc.

Jim D was an idiot, Brooks is a good comparison to Geno Smith. I think Geno could become a NFL QB paired with the right coaching, like say these WCO guys, but I don't know if Marty M is a good match up. it's not at all a sure thing. GS was horrible against TT last season and he never seemed to recover. he struggles to read zone defense, can be hesitant and he does make too many bad throws when guys are wide open. he's got a long way to go.
Marty Morningwig is a WCO guy, isn't he?
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I think he is a Brooks clone.
Racist take.
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I have absolutely no idea how important training camp performances and reports actually are. On the one hand, I think there should be a progression and sharpening. But, on the other hand, I've seen enough Baldwins to think that it's all pretty meaningless, too.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:40 PM   #51
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You'd hope he'd outplay Sanchez. Sanchez is awful.
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It's either going to be "he got beat by sanchez" or "he only beat sanchez".
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It's either going to be "he got beat by sanchez" or "he only beat sanchez".
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It's either going to be "he got beat by sanchez" or "he only beat sanchez".
All of his detractors and many of his fans thought he needed at least a year on the bench, so him beating anybody, even if it is only Sanchez, sort of throws a wrench into that script (the "he needed a year" script, not what you said - I agree with you).
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Racist take.
I know. The fact that the QB he most aptly compares to is black makes me a total racist.
If he was cloned from someone, I can guarantee that person would not be white.
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I know. The fact that the QB he most aptly compares to is black makes me a total racist.
If he was cloned from someone, I can guarantee that person would not be white.
Don't think he's anything like Brooks.

He's not a scrambler or a moron.
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Racist take.
Sad thing is, there absolutely are people here that let race impact their opinions.

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You'd hope he'd outplay Sanchez. Sanchez is awful.
Isn't Sanchez a practice stud though? I thought he was like Cassel in that they played a lot better in camp and practice which is why coaches and others were so convinced that they weren't dogshit.
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Don't think he's anything like Brooks.

He's not a scrambler or a moron.
Brooks was not a scrambler. Averaged 16.5 Rushing YPG.

Nice stereotype. Racist.
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Brooks was not a scrambler. Averaged 16.5 Rushing YPG.

Nice stereotype. Racist.
You sound like you never watched him play. He was definitely a guy who ran around and abandoned the pocket.

Brooks also did not have accuracy like Geno.

This is a bad comparison.
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People were pretty quick to post about his poor showing at otAs.
It is and has been getting thick around here. Lot of tired people. Some tired of waiting. Others tired of hearing about something that by the majority of the people in the know was just not there this year. It is hard to fathom that there wouldn't be a QB worth the #1 overall in the year that the Chiefs finally have the pick.
We need football and some wins.
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