Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 556

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Mama Hip Rockets · 07-31-2013, 01:11 PM

This is the acquisition that wins championships.

duncan_idaho · 07-31-2013, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

"hit lefties at a .253/.370/.455 clip throughout his career"

Per mlbtr

Beat me to it. Excellent platoon option.

Mr. Laz · 07-31-2013, 01:12 PM

other POS to throw into the mix in the OF

still leaves gaping wound at 2B

did they just make a move so they could say they did something?

penbrook · 07-31-2013, 01:13 PM

He's basically a better version of Frenchy

silver5liter · 07-31-2013, 01:13 PM

Brian Kenny ‏@MrBrianKenny 2m

Justin maxwell. 348/488 vs lefties. To royals.

Interesting.

**RockChalk** · 07-31-2013, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Beat me to it. Excellent platoon option.

So who gets sent down/waived?

BlackHelicopters · 07-31-2013, 01:15 PM

Probably merits its own thread

Ceej · 07-31-2013, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook

He's basically a better version of Frenchy

How is Maxwell's smile?

**ChiTown** · 07-31-2013, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

So who gets sent down/waived?

Cain to the DL is my bet

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 01:16 PM

Looks like he crushes lefties. Well, OK. Hope we actually use him that way, and that we didn't give up much.

tyton75 · 07-31-2013, 01:17 PM

6'5" 220 lbs... and he's not up for arbitration until after next season. Hits lefties pretty well. Not a terrible addition.

duncan_idaho · 07-31-2013, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

So who gets sent down/waived?

I hope Chris Getz. Go with Tejada/Johnson at 2B.

5-OF alignment. Maxwell gives them more thump against LHP, which is needed.

It would be interesting to go:
Gordon
Maxwell
Hosmer
Butler

Against LHP and see how the top of that lineup produces.

penbrook · 07-31-2013, 01:19 PM

So we need a Second baseman and we get a #4 Outfielder. Classic Dayton Moore.

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 01:19 PM

I assume we're platooning him with Lough. David doesn't have much of a split, but Maxwell's split is huge. He's pretty bad against right-handed pitching.

**RockChalk** · 07-31-2013, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I hope Chris Getz. Go with Tejada/Johnson at 2B.

5-OF alignment. Maxwell gives them more thump against LHP, which is needed.

It would be interesting to go:
Gordon
Maxwell
Hosmer
Butler

Against LHP and see how the top of that lineup produces.

Hey if it's Getz, then I'm all in on this trade

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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