Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 523

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Prison Bitch · 07-28-2013, 06:09 PM

TV deals by team:

eam RSN Avg. Annual Rights Fee Equity Stake Expiration Year
Arizona Diamonbacks FS Arizona $31 million 2015
Atlanta Braves FS Sports South/Sports South $20-$30 million 2031
Baltimore Orioles MASN $29 million 87% N/A
Boston Red Sox NESN $60 million 80% N/A
Chicago Cubs CSN Chicago/WGN $50 million (combined) 20% CSN Chicago WGN: 2014/CSN: 2019
Chicago White Sox CSN Chicago $45.5 million 40% N/A
Cincinnati Reds FS Ohio $30 million 2016
Cleveland Indians FS Ohio $40 million 2022
Colorado Rockies Root Rocky Mountain $20 million 2014
Detroit Tigers FS Detroit $40 million 2017
Houston Astros CSN Houston $80 million 45% 2032
Kansas City Royals FS Kansas City $20 million 2019
Los Angeles Angels FS West $150 million 25% 2032
Los Angeles Dodgers SportsNet LA $340 million 2038
Miami Marlins FS Florida $18 million N/A
Milwaukee Brewers FS Wisconsin $20 million 2019
Minnesota Twins FS North $29 million N/A
New York Mets SNY $65 million (inc. over time) 65% 2030
New York Yankees YES $90 million (inc. over time) 34% 2042
Oakland A’s CSN California $43-$48 million 2029 (opt-out after 2023)
Philadelphia Phillies CSN Philadelphia $35 million 2015
Pittsburgh Pirates Root Pittsburgh $18 million 2019
San Diego Padres FS San Diego $60 million 20% 2031
San Francisco Giants CSN Bay Area $30 million 35% 2032
Seattle Mariners Root Northwest $115 million more than 50% 2030
St. Louis Cardinals FS Midwest $25-28 million 2019
Tampa Bay Rays SunSports $20 million 2016
Texas Rangers FS Southwest $150 million 10% 2034
Toronto Blue Jays Rogers Sportsnet $36 million N/A
Washington Nationals MASN $29 million 13% N/A

CoMoChief · 07-28-2013, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If Moose and Hos becme perennial 25+ to 30+ HR, 100+ RBI guys, then the sting of Myers hurts a lot less.

There wouldn't be any sting because we'd be division leaders at this point of the season...and would probably get the division crown for the first time since the 80's.

It would be more of an accomplishment than anything the Chiefs have ever done in the last 15 years.

TambaBerry · 07-28-2013, 08:04 PM

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 27m
Source confirms #Angels willing to listen on Kendrick, Aybar, others, as first reported by @jeffpassan. Goal is to upgrade starting pitching

Could we get Kendrick?

TambaBerry · 07-28-2013, 08:04 PM

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 27m
Source confirms #Angels willing to listen on Kendrick, Aybar, others, as first reported by @jeffpassan. Goal is to upgrade starting pitching

Could we get Kendrick?

seaofred · 07-28-2013, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 27m
Source confirms #Angels willing to listen on Kendrick, Aybar, others, as first reported by @jeffpassan. Goal is to upgrade starting pitching

Could we get Kendrick?

Santana for Kendrick....

TambaBerry · 07-28-2013, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred

Santana for Kendrick....

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 28m
For Kendrick or Aybar, #Angels would seek a starter under multi-year control. Some teams want major leaguers for such pitchers, source says.

Needs to be multi year control

GloryDayz · 07-28-2013, 08:08 PM

I'm glad we're at .500. I'll be honest, I didn't think it would happen... I hope they keep digging...

**gblowfish** · 07-28-2013, 08:22 PM

Rather have Gaybar than Kendrick. We're set in the outfield for the rest of the year. Think they'd take Hoch? They've been showcasing him over the past week. Hey, why not trade for both of them? Make them the SS-2B combo and move Escobar to third, send Moose to AA NW Arkansas!

KevB · 07-28-2013, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Rather have Gaybar than Kendrick. We're set in the outfield for the rest of the year. Think they'd take Hoch? They've been showcasing him over the past week.

Kendrick is a 2nd baseman with a little pop....give me him w/o question over Aybar.

TambaBerry · 07-28-2013, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB

Kendrick is a 2nd baseman with a little pop....give me him w/o question over Aybar.

This

**DeezNutz** · 07-28-2013, 08:29 PM

Kendrick would be a coup, but Rany makes a great case for swapping prospects with the Cards for Wong.

Messier · 07-28-2013, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

There wouldn't be any sting because we'd be division leaders at this point of the season...and would probably get the division crown for the first time since the 80's.

It would be more of an accomplishment than anything the Chiefs have ever done in the last 15 years.

What do the Chiefs have to do with it?

**gblowfish** · 07-28-2013, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB

Kendrick is a 2nd baseman with a little pop....give me him w/o question over Aybar.

I thought Kendrick was an outfielder for some reason. OK then!

Bambi · 07-28-2013, 08:45 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/da...-wont-be-moved

tk13 · 07-28-2013, 08:47 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/da...-wont-be-moved

Nothing really surprising here... but a CBS Sports article tonight saying the Royals are not going to sell, according to a "source." Won't move Santana or Hoch unless they get overwhelmed by an offer... and are looking for 2B/RF help. Ideally players who are under control next year too.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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07-28-2013, 06:09 PM	#7831
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07-28-2013, 08:04 PM	#7833
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07-28-2013, 08:22 PM	#7838
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07-28-2013, 08:47 PM	#7845
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1657500	http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/da...-wont-be-moved Nothing really surprising here... but a CBS Sports article tonight saying the Royals are not going to sell, according to a "source." Won't move Santana or Hoch unless they get overwhelmed by an offer... and are looking for 2B/RF help. Ideally players who are under control next year too.
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