Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 510

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

TLO · 07-27-2013, 08:14 AM

Why is Duffy not an option at this point?

siberian khatru · 07-27-2013, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Wade Davies tonight. Ice pick ,please.

Just consider him the sacrifice to Chris Sale. I'd rather lose to Sale with my worst pitcher and save the others for better matchups.

Deberg_1990 · 07-27-2013, 08:37 AM

What about Yordano Ventura? Is he ready?

Bambi · 07-27-2013, 09:06 AM

Rays are 22-9 since Wil Myers has been in uniform.

Tim Kirchen just called them the best Rays team ever.

Infidel Goat · 07-27-2013, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi

Rays are 22-9 since Wil Myers has been in uniform.

Tim Kirchen just called them the best Rays team ever.

Passan tweeted that Myers has seven straight multihit games which has only been done 6 times in Royals history.

TLO · 07-27-2013, 09:15 AM

Will Myers. FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP.

Deberg_1990 · 07-27-2013, 09:18 AM

It's why Myers absolutely should have been kept. You can't expect every prospect to work out. The odds were at least one of Moose and Hosmer would fail. The more prospects the better.

BlackHelicopters · 07-27-2013, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke

Will Myers. FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP.

Santana for Meyers

Sure-Oz · 07-27-2013, 09:28 AM

I don't even think Will Smith is starting in AAA right now, which he should be.

I'd think if they trade Santana you could bring up Duffy (even though he hasnt looked good yet imo) and/or Will Smith to add to the rotation. Davis inevitably will be put in the pen

TLO · 07-27-2013, 09:33 AM

Why is everyone so high on Will Smith all the sudden?

Bambi · 07-27-2013, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel Goat

Passan tweeted that Myers has seven straight multihit games which has only been done 6 times in Royals history.

I didn't think I'd be one of those people to follow so closely as to the result of GMDM's big move.

But Myers has been so good it's impossible not to watch.

Sure-Oz · 07-27-2013, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke

Why is everyone so high on Will Smith all the sudden?

His strike out #'s have been much higher and his era has been cut in half from last year. he actually is getting lefties out as well. I feel he could easily take Davis spot right now and do much much better.

i just don't get why they've taken him out of the AAA rotation, he was doing fine

TLO · 07-27-2013, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

His strike out #'s have been much higher and his era has been cut in half from last year. he actually is getting lefties out as well. I feel he could easily take Davis spot right now and do much much better.

i just don't get why they've taken him out of the AAA rotation, he was doing fine

siberian khatru · 07-27-2013, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi

I didn't think I'd be one of those people to follow so closely as to the result of GMDM's big move.

But Myers has been so good it's impossible not to watch.

I check his boxscore every day.

Demonpenz · 07-27-2013, 10:06 AM

The Royals should go for it this year. Chances are this is the closest the Royals are going to get. They are due 5 Tommy Johns and 3 lasik surgery's in the offseason.

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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07-27-2013, 08:14 AM	#7636
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07-27-2013, 09:18 AM	#7642
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $344454	It's why Myers absolutely should have been kept. You can't expect every prospect to work out. The odds were at least one of Moose and Hosmer would fail. The more prospects the better. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $-183864	The Royals should go for it this year. Chances are this is the closest the Royals are going to get. They are due 5 Tommy Johns and 3 lasik surgery's in the offseason. __________________
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