2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[duncan_idaho]

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

[P-90Rex]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

To my knowledge the Royals have never made 1 good trade deadline deal. So I'll assume they won't this year either.

July 20, 2012 Jonathan Sanchez traded to Rockies for Jeremy Guthrie...

[Prison Bitch]

Meh, Sanchez sucks but Guthrie is one of the worst WAR pitchers in all of baseball this year via fangraphs. Plus he makes 8M. Not looking so hot right now. (Last year, yes)

[KChiefs1]

What is Santana worth?

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Meh, Sanchez sucks but Guthrie is one of the worst WAR pitchers in all of baseball this year via fangraphs. Plus he makes 8M. Not looking so hot right now. (Last year, yes)

Keep deflecting.

You got called out and you were wrong yet again.

[DeepSouth]

Does anyone have any insight into what move the Royals will make tomorrow so they can add Pedro Ciriaco to the 25 man roster ?

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by DeepSouth

Does anyone have any insight into what move the Royals will make tomorrow so they can add Pedro Ciriaco to the 25 man roster ?

Moose to omaha.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Meh, Sanchez sucks but Guthrie is one of the worst WAR pitchers in all of baseball this year via fangraphs. Plus he makes 8M. Not looking so hot right now. (Last year, yes)

have you ever been right about anything at all ever in your miserable life?

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by CJizzles

Keep deflecting.

You got called out and you were wrong yet again.

Deflecting what, moron? He's a negative value player this year and one of the worst in baseball - AND he's costing us 8M.


Don't be a fool and ignore the data.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

have you ever been right about anything at all ever in your miserable life?

I trust actual data over the unproveable opinions of morons like yourself. Sorry, but it's the only rational decision.

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Deflecting what, moron? He's a negative value player this year and one of the worst in baseball - AND he's costing us 8M.


Don't be a fool and ignore the data.

Negative value? He has a winning record and has only a few bad outings. So what if he doesn't strike people out. For the most part, he's gotten the job done. Dunno what you mean by worst in baseball. I thought that accolade belonged to Wade Davies.

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Deflecting what, moron? He's a negative value player this year and one of the worst in baseball - AND he's costing us 8M.


Don't be a fool and ignore the data.

Only you would negatively spin flipping Johnathan Sanchez for Jeremy Guthrie.

Dipshit.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Deflecting what, moron? He's a negative value player this year and one of the worst in baseball - AND he's costing us 8M.


Don't be a fool and ignore the data.

You're trying to muddy the waters rather than admit you we're completely wrong.
We had Sanchez. We weren't going to keep him longer than last year, the way he was pitching. He, most likely, would've been cut if we hadn't traded him.
We traded him for another player in the same boat. Guthrie came to KC and finished the year 5-3 with an ERA under 4. Sanchez went to Colorado and finished 0-3 with an ERA around 9.5. As far as the trade goes, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS. We won that trade. There's absolutely no question.
His salary this year, and numbers this year have absolutely no bearing on if it was a good trade. None. He was a free agent, as was Sanchez.

In short... Stop always being wrong.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Deflecting what, moron? He's a negative value player this year and one of the worst in baseball - AND he's costing us 8M.


Don't be a fool and ignore the data.

Isn't that a new contract signed this past offseason? The trade of Sanchez for Guthrie was only for the remainder of last season. Criticize the new contract all you want but the trade had nothing to due with this year.

[Ceej]

Prison bitch is used to being raped.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Isn't that a new contract signed this past offseason? The trade of Sanchez for Guthrie was only for the remainder of last season. Criticize the new contract all you want but the trade had nothing to due with this year.

Agreed. That's a fair distinction. If we want to separate the two as separate actions, I can buy that. So the trade was 2 good months of Guthrie. The aftermath is potentially, 3 disastrous years of an extension. I'll stipulate.