Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 445

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

WhawhaWhat · 07-06-2013, 06:22 PM

So the Giants got an out today by hitting out of order. I don't think I have ever seen that before. Such a Royals things to do.

Demonpenz · 07-06-2013, 06:24 PM

Royals.have.done I before.

duncan_idaho · 07-06-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Why do people think Utley is going to fetch much of anything on the trade market? The dude is 36 and in the last year of his contract. It's a half-year rental. He's playing pretty well, but this isn't a James Shields type deal. Also Utley's HALF season will cost 7.5 mill and the Phillies have to find a way to save payroll after that foolish deal they gave Howard.

I don't think he'll be prohibitively expensive - probably a B prospect and a lotto ticket... but Ibanez would probably be even cheaper. C prospect and a lotto ticket type.

Captain Obvious · 07-06-2013, 06:44 PM

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Greg Holland has struck out 43.8% of the batters he's faced in 2013. That's the best in baseball, and 5th best (min: 25 IP) ALL TIME.

**SAUTO** · 07-06-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

So the Giants got an out today by hitting out of order. I don't think I have ever seen that before. Such a Royals things to do.

We've done it.
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Cephalic Trauma · 07-06-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I don't think he'll be prohibitively expensive - probably a B prospect and a lotto ticket... but Ibanez would probably be even cheaper. C prospect and a lotto ticket type.

So, in terms of royals prospects, what are we looking at?

duncan_idaho · 07-06-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

So, in terms of royals prospects, what are we looking at?

B prospect: Cheslor Cuthbert, Orlando Calixte, Kyle Smith
C prospect: Jason Adam, Chris Dwyer,
Lotto: Christian Colon, Sam Selman

Cephalic Trauma · 07-06-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

B prospect: Cheslor Cuthbert, Orlando Calixte, Kyle Smith
C prospect: Jason Adam, Chris Dwyer,
Lotto: Christian Colon, Sam Selman

Nice thanks. I would trade anyone on that list sans kyle smith.

I still really want ibanez, but I will shut up now because it probably won't happen.

duncan_idaho · 07-06-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Nice thanks. I would trade anyone on that list sans kyle smith.

I still really want ibanez, but I will shut up now because it probably won't happen.

Ibanez would probably require playing Alex Gordon in RF, because Ibanez is freakin awful defensively.

Pitt Gorilla · 07-06-2013, 09:48 PM

Went to the game last night and was a little surprised to see ALL of the HyVee stuff. I love HyVee and spend most of my income at the one a minute up the street from me, but I had no idea that they own half of the Royals/Chiefs. They used to have the HyVee upper-level seats, but now they sponsor almost everything. Crazy.

**lewdog** · 07-07-2013, 03:23 PM

So given what I think might happen over this next week of road games and the window after the All-star game, are we buyers, sellers or stay puters if we are 7-10 games under .500 at the trade deadline?

Three7s · 07-07-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

So given what I think might happen over this next week of road games and the window after the All-star game, are we buyers, sellers or stay puters if we are 7-10 games under .500 at the trade deadline?

7-10 under? Probably sellers. If we stay where we are, then buyers.

Prison Bitch · 07-07-2013, 03:31 PM

What the hell happened to Butler this year?

siberian khatru · 07-07-2013, 03:31 PM

I'm only interested in buying what also helps us in 2014. Not interested in two-month rentals.

**gblowfish** · 07-07-2013, 04:22 PM

I'm glad Ibanez is having success. I hated to see him playing for the Yanks, but he's home now in Seattle, and deserves a nice end to his career. He's a class act.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
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