Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 436

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**chefsos** · 07-03-2013, 08:46 PM

Well hell, people, why don't you just ask Phil to post the traitorous rep comments (along with mug shots of course) at the post office?

Jesus Christ.

Nightfyre · 07-03-2013, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chefsos

Well hell, people, why don't you just ask Phil to post the traitorous rep comments (along with mug shots of course) at the post office?

Jesus Christ.

When they incriminate themselves, it really doesn't have to be publicized. It must be tough going through life without being able to recognize a joke.

Discuss Thrower · 07-04-2013, 12:09 AM

Had a Cards fan tell me Royals fans are the worst in the major leagues because of booing Cano last year during the HR derby.

So that's nice.

**Shogun** · 07-04-2013, 12:25 AM

@randomfaketweet Royals stalker ChiefsandO'sfan has been taken to a local Baltimore Hospital to receive treatment to a burn that was inflicted on him in the Chiefsplanet Royals thread. He is labeled as being day-to-day.

07-04-2013, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Two questions:
1) Were patteeu and SaulGood the whiteknights?
2) Did pos or neg rep win?

Heh. I had more neg rep than pos. Dicks.

Nightfyre · 07-04-2013, 02:42 AM

As the Trade Deadline approaches on July 31 at 3 p.m. CT, the names of players coming up on free agency always surface in speculation and that group will include pitcher Ervin Santana, who's been very good in his first year with Kansas City.

"I mean, we need him, too. We're trying to win games," Moore said. "We expect to win games, we believe in our team. We need to make sure we're running out a quality starting pitcher every single night and Erv's done as well as anybody we've run out there."

Sounds like the Royals are going to be buyers at the break.

**RockChalk** · 07-04-2013, 06:10 AM

I take that quote moreso as we wont be sellers, not necessarily that we'll be buyers. Hope you're right though

Archie F. Swin · 07-04-2013, 06:59 AM

who will likely start in Left field?

Great Expectations · 07-04-2013, 07:11 AM

Gordon shouldn't be out long, but I'd like to see what Seratelli can do

siberian khatru · 07-04-2013, 08:23 AM

Greg Holland's first 4 appearances this year: 3 IP, 5 hits, 4 ER, 6 BB, 5 K

Since then: 28 IP, 14 hits, 3 ER, 5 BB, 47 K. Holy mother of God.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 07-04-2013, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Greg Holland's first 4 appearances this year: 3 IP, 5 hits, 4 ER, 6 BB, 5 K

Since then: 28 IP, 14 hits, 3 ER, 5 BB, 47 K. Holy mother of God.

Pfffft. Johnson is better.

**penguinz** · 07-04-2013, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Greg Holland's first 4 appearances this year: 3 IP, 5 hits, 4 ER, 6 BB, 5 K

Since then: 28 IP, 14 hits, 3 ER, 5 BB, 47 K. Holy mother of God.

Doesn't matter when Collins is giving games away.

duncan_idaho · 07-04-2013, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Greg Holland's first 4 appearances this year: 3 IP, 5 hits, 4 ER, 6 BB, 5 K

Since then: 28 IP, 14 hits, 3 ER, 5 BB, 47 K. Holy mother of God.

ELITE closer performance right there. That's the type of line Kimbrel was putting up the last two seasons.

sedated · 07-04-2013, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Had a Cards fan tell me Royals fans are the worst in the major leagues because of booing Cano last year during the HR derby.

So that's nice.

Fairweather fan letting the media tell him what to think? No way.

**Reaper16** · 07-04-2013, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated

Fairweather fan letting the media tell him what to think? No way.

Not so sure about fairweather. The Cards have had a pretty steady climate for awhile now.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
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