Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 348

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

BlackHelicopters · 05-30-2013, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

don't give a crap whether they make hand gestures or not ... irrelevant.

what does matter is our crappy at bats

not swinging at strikes
swinging at pitches in the dirt
not aware of the situation(ie swinging for the fence when we need a single)
crappy fundamentals

why in the **** should any Royals' fan be worried about silly stuff like hand gestures instead of what is costing wins

I would say it is all about discipline. They spend time on their hand gestures, maybe they should spend that time watching video, or hitting off the tee.

GloryDayz · 05-30-2013, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Do you think Ned will feel undermined by Brett a little bit? I mean, who instantly commands more respect? a guy who had 128 hits in his career or a 3000 hit HoFer?

I'm sure Ned was told by many that he's still drawing a check, so

and get GB coffee before he asks for it...

GloryDayz · 05-30-2013, 07:28 PM

Must be nice to have a team that can hit.

Raiderhater · 05-30-2013, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

don't give a crap whether they make hand gestures or not ... irrelevant.

what does matter is our crappy at bats

not swinging at strikes
swinging at pitches in the dirt
not aware of the situation(ie swinging for the fence when we need a single)
crappy fundamentals

why in the **** should any Royals' fan be worried about silly stuff like hand gestures instead of what is costing wins

The franchise doesn't take the game seriously, why should the fans?

Raiderhater · 05-30-2013, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Do you think Ned will feel undermined by Brett a little bit? I mean, who instantly commands more respect? a guy who had 128 hits in his career or a 3000 hit HoFer?

He should feel undermined. He sucks at his job. Underminded, threatened, emasculated, ect.

Stanley Nickels · 05-30-2013, 09:00 PM

Perez.

Mr. Laz · 05-30-2013, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

The franchise doesn't take the game seriously, why should the fans?

those hand gestures don't indicate anything about whether the players take the game seriously or not.

Billy Butler still being a fat **** is a bigger issue

**lewdog** · 05-30-2013, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

those hand gestures don't indicate anything about whether the players take the game seriously or not.

Billy Butler still being a fat **** is a bigger issue

Billy Butler can hit like shit this year and still get a pass from me. Not true about the rest of them.

Mecca · 05-31-2013, 01:18 AM

Last I heard about DePodesta was he's in the Mets front office and really has no desire to be a GM again.
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**BigMeatballDave** · 05-31-2013, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

those hand gestures don't indicate anything about whether the players take the game seriously or not.

Billy Butler still being a fat **** is a bigger issue

If he hits like he did last season, I don't care if he's 300lbs.

There have been several fatties who can hit, through the years, why do you give a shit?

Raiderhater · 05-31-2013, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

those hand gestures don't indicate anything about whether the players take the game seriously or not.

Billy Butler still being a fat **** is a bigger issue

The hand gestures do not indicate that, you are correct. The past nearly three decades of shit baseball from this organization does.

Blaming the fans for nit picking at this point is, well, nit picking.

siberian khatru · 05-31-2013, 06:07 AM

I've already said what I think about the Brett move.

But I'll confess, I was giddy like a little kid seeing Brett in the dugout last night.

OmahaChief · 05-31-2013, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

If he hits like he did last season, I don't care if he's 300lbs.

There have been several fatties who can hit, through the years, why do you give a shit?

Prince Fielder and his dad are both fat and can hit. Wish our fat guy had their power.

**ChiTown** · 05-31-2013, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I've already said what I think about the Brett move.

But I'll confess, I was giddy like a little kid seeing Brett in the dugout last night.

That's what DM is hoping for. All is well, because GB is in the dugout. I admit, it brings back great memories, but this is akin to throwing a dress on a pig - at the end of the day, it's still a pig.

DM bought some time with this move, but that's all he did. This is still going to end up being a train wreck disappointment of a season - AKA, business as usual for the Royals Organization

mr. tegu · 05-31-2013, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

That's what DM is hoping for. All is well, because GB is in the dugout. I admit, it brings back great memories, but this is akin to throwing a dress on a pig - at the end of the day, it's still a pig.

DM bought some time with this move, but that's all he did. This is still going to end up being a train wreck disappointment of a season - AKA, business as usual for the Royals Organization

What if Brett legitamitely helps the hitters and we start seeing a significant increase in power. Do you give Moore credit or is he simply lucky? I realize this is unlikely unfortunately though.

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