Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 318

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Stanley Nickels · 05-27-2013, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Only an idiot totally disbelieves Vegas. So it's not surprising that you disbelieved Vegas.

Here are MLB teams' wins in 2012, with Vegas' O/U wins going into the season in parentheses:

Arizona: 81 (84.5) Diff: -3.5
Atlanta: 94 (86.5) Diff: +7.5
Baltimore: 93 (70.5) Diff: +22.5
Boston: 69 (87.5) Diff: -18.5
Chicago Cubs: 61 (73.5) Diff: -12.5
Chicago WS: 85 (76.5) Diff: +8.5
Cincinnati: 97 (86.5) Diff: +10.5
Colorado: 64 (82.5) Diff: -18.5
Cleveland: 68 (75.5) Diff: -7.5
Detroit: 88 (94.5) Diff: -6.5
Houston: 55 (62.5) Diff: -7.5
Kansas City: 72 (78.5) Diff: -6.5
LAA: 89 (89.5) Diff: -0.5
LAD: 86 (81.5) Diff: +4.5
Miami: 69 (82.5) Diff: -13.5
Milwaukee: 83 (82.5) Diff: +0.5
Minnesota 66 (74.5) Diff: -8.5
NYM: 74 (74.5) Diff: -0.5
NYY: 95 (93.5) Diff: +1.5
Oakland: 94 (72.5) Diff: +21.5
Philadelphia: 81 (95.5) Diff: -14.5
Pittsburgh: 79 (73.5) Diff: +5.5
San Diego: 76 (70.5) Diff: +5.5
San Fran: 94 (87.5) Diff: +6.5
Seattle: 75 (72.5) Diff: +2.5
StL: 88 (84.5) Diff: +3.5
Tampa: 90 (87.5) Diff: +2.5
Texas: 93 (94.5) Diff: -1.5
Toronto: 73 (81) Diff: -8.0
Washington: 98 (80.5) Diff: +17.5

Yeah, staggering accuracy there. 15/30 teams were +/- 7.5 games or more outside of Vegas' predicted win total.

**gblowfish** · 05-27-2013, 08:12 PM

One of my other "St. Louis Friends" emailed me tonight. He said he knows what's wrong with the Royals:

"Lollygaggers!"

**DeezNutz** · 05-27-2013, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

One of my other "St. Louis Friends" emailed me tonight. He said he knows what's wrong with the Royals:

"Lollygaggers!"

Filter evasion. Reported.

Prison Bitch · 05-27-2013, 08:28 PM

According to Posnanski: In the last 11 games the Royals have hit 2 home runs. Both by 39 yr old Miguel Tejada

**ChiTown** · 05-27-2013, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Only an idiot totally disbelieves Vegas. So it's not surprising that you disbelieved Vegas.

Idiot? That's priceless coming from you.

siberian khatru · 05-27-2013, 08:38 PM

Mellinger's latest: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/05/27...#storylink=cpy

Highlights:

There’s no simple fix here. No easy move to make. The Royals’ skid is the fault of many, and to scapegoat anyone specifically would be unfair and misleading. But to continue with the status quo — pretending or hoping it’ll fix itself — would be delusional.

...

The Royals can sit around and hope their luck evens out, or they can show that losing in bunches is no longer acceptable. It won’t be entirely fair to whoever is dumped, but that’s not the point. The point is that something needs to change.

Mizzou_8541 · 05-27-2013, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

According to Posnanski: In the last 11 games the Royals have hit 2 home runs. Both by 39 yr old Miguel Tejada

OMG lol. God we suck. I love how when the Royals regress to the mean, all our overachievers become average, and our young "stars" continue to suck.

**DeezNutz** · 05-27-2013, 08:49 PM

The "fix" is to fire DM. Now, that's not simple, but that's the ultimate solution to the problem, which many of us have known for several years.

Mama Hip Rockets · 05-27-2013, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

According to Posnanski: In the last 11 games the Royals have hit 2 home runs. Both by 39 yr old Miguel Tejada

I read on facebook that the Cubs pitchers have more home runs in the last 15 games or something than the entire Royals team.

Stanley Nickels · 05-27-2013, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman

I read on facebook that the Cubs pitchers have more home runs in the last 15 games or something than the entire Royals team.

Since May 15, I believe. 3 vs 2. And they have three pitchers who have hit home runs. We have one player on our ENTIRE TEAM who has.

Prison Bitch · 05-27-2013, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

OMG lol. God we suck. I love how when the Royals regress to the mean, all our overachievers become average, and our young "stars" continue to suck.

It does prove there are all sorts of castoffs and retreads who can hit more hr than our own players.

**gblowfish** · 05-27-2013, 09:15 PM

They won't change a goddamn thing until the All Star Break, if then.

They're still ahead of last year's pace by three games.
If they lose 89 games this year, they'll stick out their chest and say "PROGRESS!'
They could lose 90 and say "Well, we held our ground..."
This entire organization has no clue what it takes to win. Nor do they care. You think the Red Sox, or Yanks, or Texas would tolerate this? The Dodgers might whack Donnie Baseball. If they do, maybe we should go grab him and punt Ned. Of course, he chose Trey Hillman as his bench coach, so maybe he's not such a smart guy after all.

Prison Bitch · 05-27-2013, 09:17 PM

I don't really hold Dayton to the expectations of large payroll teams. But I do think he should be compared to peer clubs and after 7 years its clear he can't ever out do any of them either.

**SAUTO** · 05-27-2013, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Picture that came in my email tonight from a guy I know in St. Louis. Giving George Brett the finger in Kauffman Stadium.

Hope these gutless pussy losers can win at least ONE FRICKIN GAME against the Cards in KC tomorrow.

Did I mention they are gutless pussy losers???

Looks more like the dumbass is flipping someone else off and George is hitting him with the bat
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**gblowfish** · 05-27-2013, 09:30 PM

Several years ago when I was still blogging the Royals on a daily basis, I decided to root for "visitor," and made that my team record. I called the team the "Kansas City Kanchos." The Kanchos won over 100 games and won the AL Central by more than ten games.

"Kancho" is a Japanese term. It's Japanese slang for "finger enema" and is also called "a thousand years of pain." In short, the perfect nickname for your Kansas City Royals.

So looks like Royals fans are getting "Kancho'ed" again this year.
Bend over, Royals Fans. Time for the Kancho!

http://www.kancho.org/

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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05-27-2013, 08:12 PM	#4757
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $16896178 VARSITY	One of my other "St. Louis Friends" emailed me tonight. He said he knows what's wrong with the Royals: "Lollygaggers!"
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05-27-2013, 08:28 PM	#4759
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	According to Posnanski: In the last 11 games the Royals have hit 2 home runs. Both by 39 yr old Miguel Tejada
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05-27-2013, 08:38 PM	#4761
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $-1125050	Mellinger's latest: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/05/27...#storylink=cpy Highlights: There’s no simple fix here. No easy move to make. The Royals’ skid is the fault of many, and to scapegoat anyone specifically would be unfair and misleading. But to continue with the status quo — pretending or hoping it’ll fix itself — would be delusional. ... The Royals can sit around and hope their luck evens out, or they can show that losing in bunches is no longer acceptable. It won’t be entirely fair to whoever is dumped, but that’s not the point. The point is that something needs to change.
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05-27-2013, 09:15 PM	#4767
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $16896178 VARSITY	They won't change a goddamn thing until the All Star Break, if then. They're still ahead of last year's pace by three games. If they lose 89 games this year, they'll stick out their chest and say "PROGRESS!' They could lose 90 and say "Well, we held our ground..." This entire organization has no clue what it takes to win. Nor do they care. You think the Red Sox, or Yanks, or Texas would tolerate this? The Dodgers might whack Donnie Baseball. If they do, maybe we should go grab him and punt Ned. Of course, he chose Trey Hillman as his bench coach, so maybe he's not such a smart guy after all.
Posts: 41,011

05-27-2013, 09:17 PM	#4768
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	I don't really hold Dayton to the expectations of large payroll teams. But I do think he should be compared to peer clubs and after 7 years its clear he can't ever out do any of them either.
Posts: 87,025

05-27-2013, 09:30 PM	#4770
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $16896178 VARSITY	Several years ago when I was still blogging the Royals on a daily basis, I decided to root for "visitor," and made that my team record. I called the team the "Kansas City Kanchos." The Kanchos won over 100 games and won the AL Central by more than ten games. "Kancho" is a Japanese term. It's Japanese slang for "finger enema" and is also called "a thousand years of pain." In short, the perfect nickname for your Kansas City Royals. So looks like Royals fans are getting "Kancho'ed" again this year. Bend over, Royals Fans. Time for the Kancho! http://www.kancho.org/
Posts: 41,011