Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 287

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Three7s · 05-17-2013, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles

Lefty on the bump tomorrow for the A's.

Almost guaranteed Moose gets the day off.

Thank god.

Ceej · 05-17-2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

Thank god.

You know how nasty Ned likes to play his players versus former teams.

C'MON TE-HOT-TA!

Prison Bitch · 05-17-2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

Thank god.

I wouldn't start talking like that around here. You'll be called a 'troll' in no time flat. Be very careful I'm just tellin you.

Ceej · 05-17-2013, 11:11 PM

Lough will probably sit while Mr. Bacon himself will be starting in RF tomorrow.

**TinyEvel** · 05-18-2013, 02:21 AM

I think there is another KC Royals thread. Why don't you post in it? Do we really need two?

**ChiTown** · 05-18-2013, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel

I think there is another KC Royals thread. Why don't you post in it? Do we really need two?

Stfu

siberian khatru · 05-18-2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles

Lough will probably sit while Mr. Bacon himself will be starting in RF tomorrow.

Gotta keep his Oakland fans happy.

AndChiefs · 05-18-2013, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Gotta keep his Oakland fans happy.

We could just leave him behind when we leave so they can be with him all the time.

siberian khatru · 05-18-2013, 09:12 AM

Sam Mellinger ‏@mellinger 31m
#Royals are now 1-5 when James Shields gives up two or fewer runs; 2-1 when he gives up three or more runs.

Demonpenz · 05-18-2013, 10:01 AM

I feel almost like the shields trades is a waste. What is the point if we were just going to lose all the games. I head says though that Shields is pitching like a badass and there has to be some pressure put on yost and the hitters to get more runs.

ChiefsCountry · 05-18-2013, 11:16 AM

There is a good shot we could be at the top of division by next weekend. Baseball is a sport where the knee jerk reactions are not necessary.

CaliforniaChief · 05-18-2013, 11:36 AM

If I was Ned, I'd trot out this lineup tonight:

Lough (CF)
Cain (RF)
Gordon (LF)
Butler (DH)
Hosmer (1B)
Perez (C)
Escobar (SS)
Tejada (3B)
Johnson (2B)

Yes, even against a LHP I'd start Lough. That's how little I think of Francouer.

NWTF · 05-18-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I feel almost like the shields trades is a waste. What is the point if we were just going to lose all the games. I head says though that Shields is pitching like a badass and there has to be some pressure put on yost and the hitters to get more runs.

Well they sure are wasting his starts. The offense is bad but seem to be at their worst when Shields pitches.

**Reaper16** · 05-18-2013, 12:04 PM

Maybe Shields shouldn't give up home runs in the clutch every start /trolling

**ChiTown** · 05-18-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Sam Mellinger ‏@mellinger 31m
#Royals are now 1-5 when James Shields gives up two or fewer runs; 2-1 when he gives up three or more runs.

Our offense has absolutely pissed away our best pitcher on this staff. The fact that Hos and Moose are struggling just exacerbate this problem

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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