Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 257

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Prison Bitch · 05-09-2013, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke

but the stats don't lie, Duncan.

Overall he's still .219 .294 .333

He, Hosmer and Salvy are absolutely killing this team and need to be sent to Omaha, stat!

I probably wasn't the only who noticed him praising Moose for last nite's game that finally got him over the Medoza line and past Getz in the HR total. Then turning right and mocking the very Orioles pitcher who gave up the hits as not MLB-caliber.

**Old Dog** · 05-09-2013, 11:57 AM

Alright...."End the losing streak rep" has been doled out....WE GOT THIS

**Old Dog** · 05-09-2013, 12:04 PM

normally stay at $50 or less, but I'm feeling confident tonight.....Royals are even money (+100), so I'm going for $100 on the money line

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-09-2013, 12:22 PM

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-King- · 05-09-2013, 01:22 PM

Lineup changed:

Escobar
Cain
Gordon
Butler
Posted via Mobile Device

**Bowser** · 05-09-2013, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

Lineup changed:

Escobar
Cain
Gordon
Butler
Posted via Mobile Device

AND HOOTIE FAPS

**DeezNutz** · 05-09-2013, 01:24 PM

Call up Gio. Put Dyson in CF.

Call it a lineup.

**petegz28** · 05-09-2013, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

Lineup changed:

Escobar
Cain
Gordon
Butler
Posted via Mobile Device

Funny, on 610 last night after the game someone called in and said that should be our starting 4.

Ned Yost must be listening to 610 after the game?

**DeezNutz** · 05-09-2013, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

Funny, on 610 last night after the game someone called in and said that should be our starting 4.

Ned Yost must be listening to 610 after the game?

Yost floated this lineup to the Star before yesterday's game.

**Old Dog** · 05-09-2013, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

Lineup changed:

Escobar
Cain
Gordon
Butler
Posted via Mobile Device

I wish we could only hit those four.....of course the whole "ghost man" thing would have some folks yelling for reparations or something.

Edit:
Wait, no it wouldn't, both of them get to hit.....cool

duncan_idaho · 05-09-2013, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Call up Gio. Put Dyson in CF.

Call it a lineup.

Works for me.

I still don't think Escobar is an ideal leadoff man, but considering that a lot of the hitters that were being counted on in 4-5-6 spots have struggled so much, it's time to shake it up.

As long as Escobar, Cain, Gordon and Butler are getting the most at-bats, it should work out.

duncan_idaho · 05-09-2013, 01:38 PM

Full lineup:

6 - Escobar
9 - Cain
7 - Gordon
DH - Butler
3 - Hosmer
2 - Perez
5 - Moustakas
4 - Johnson
8 - Dyson

If they're going to focus on speed and defense to play to the K, Elliott Johnson should absolutely be the starter at 2B unless they bring up Gio or trade for someone else.

Johnson is truly a plus defender at 2B and his range is a real benefit/run saver. He also has a plus arm for the position, so he can make plays when ranging up the middle.

Gordon/Dyson/Cain should be a really elite OF defense. Francoeur can play against lefties. And that's about it.

Nightfyre · 05-09-2013, 01:44 PM

Escobar's approach is not suited to leadoff hitting, imo.

**DeezNutz** · 05-09-2013, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If they're going to focus on speed and defense to play to the K, Elliott Johnson should absolutely be the starter at 2B unless they bring up Gio or trade for someone else.

Johnson is truly a plus defender at 2B and his range is a real benefit/run saver. He also has a plus arm for the position, so he can make plays when ranging up the middle.

Gordon/Dyson/Cain should be a really elite OF defense. Francoeur can play against lefties. And that's about it.

I don't know enough about this player to comment, but there have been two short pop-ups in shallow RF/foul territory, and Johnson has been no where to be found.

Is he getting a bad break on these balls? He's not slow, so where in the **** is he on balls that he clearly has the best chance at?

siberian khatru · 05-09-2013, 01:54 PM

I still don't like Hosmer and his .333 SLG hitting in the middle of the lineup. Hell, put HIM at leadoff, Esco 2nd, Gordon 3, Butler 4, CAIN 5, etc. I don't care that much about hitting righties back-to-back.

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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