Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 228

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Simplicity · 05-02-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

lol, I had that as my signature for a long time until someone complained on how big it was. I'd love if someone resized it for me.

Simplicity · 05-02-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles

You probably keep the sticker on the bill too, huh?

Yeah, haha.

**Saul Good** · 05-02-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB

That 2003 team had an offense that was probably better than our team this season. Beltran was a beast, and we also had Sweeney, Ibanez, Berroa (good year), Randa, etc. However, that pitching staff was terrible. Our best starter that season was Darrell May. Enough said.

If I recall correctly, we had a lot of things go perfectly to achieve that start. Runelvys, Affeldt and McDougal all started hot. Brent Mayne was raking (complete anomoly). That team was lucky, while this year's team has some legit staying power based on historical performance of the pitchers and assumptions around improvement of the offense.

C: Brent Mayne versus Sal Perez...advantage 2013
1B: Ken Harvey versus Hosmer...advantage 2013
2B: Desi Relaford/Carlos Febles versus Getz/Johnson...push
3B: Joe Randa versus Moose...advantage 2003
SS: Berroa vs Escobar...push
RF: Ibanez vs Frenchy...advantage 2003
CF: Beltran vs Cain...advantage 2003
LF: platoon vs Gordon...advantage 2013
DH: Sweeney vs Butler...push

From a purely offensive standpoint, I give a slight edge to our current team. Defense is much better today.

**gblowfish** · 05-02-2013, 11:26 AM

Escobar is a much better SS then B-Error-A.

mr. tegu · 05-02-2013, 11:37 AM

On the radio this morning Physioc said that after Shields gave up that two run first inning a few days ago he told the guys to just get him some runs because he was not going to give up any more. I thought that was pretty cool.

**lewdog** · 05-02-2013, 05:09 PM

A present to myself arrive in my mail today....

Nightfyre · 05-02-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

A present to myself arrive in my mail today....

What did that cost you? (If you don't mind my asking.) I want one...

**lewdog** · 05-02-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

What did that cost you? (If you don't mind my asking.) I want one...

$50 shipped. Can get bats for around $100!

58kcfan89 · 05-02-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

$50 shipped. Can get bats for around $100!

Got a site? It'd be much appreciated. Checked the site in the link & only saw an autograph verification site, not actually selling anything from what I saw.

Pitt Gorilla · 05-02-2013, 06:06 PM

It really sucks that Santana's excellent start got wiped out. It shouldn't be ruining my evening, but it kind of is; I had my broom ready to go.

**lewdog** · 05-02-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89

Got a site? It'd be much appreciated. Checked the site in the link & only saw an autograph verification site, not actually selling anything from what I saw.

Player-direct.com. I went from that source but purchased off ebay for less. And even off ebay, it was the owner of player-direct who shipped me the ball.

KChiefs1 · 05-02-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

It really sucks that Santana's excellent start got wiped out. It shouldn't be ruining my evening, but it kind of is; I had my broom ready to go.

He was dealing...too bad the game didn't start at noon.

Discuss Thrower · 05-02-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

He was dealing...too bad the game didn't start at noon.

Same token, had the game started at noon who's to say he doesn't get shelled in the first two with the rain ending a 6 inning 5-0 Rays win?

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