Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 118

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

duncan_idaho · 03-25-2013, 06:11 PM

So glad THIS isn't us.

(Link is to a Brewers forum reacting to Kyle Lohse)

SPchief · 03-25-2013, 07:21 PM

Salvy with a two run double!

**Shogun** · 03-25-2013, 07:21 PM

SALVY!

Demonpenz · 03-25-2013, 07:26 PM

Glad to see Moustakas still serving them up in Little League...Joel Goldburg was ripped two seasons ago alittle bigger last year, is he back to trip or still somewhat puffy.

**gblowfish** · 03-25-2013, 07:27 PM

Every guy in the lineup hit Greinke good. Impressive.

Cephalic Trauma · 03-25-2013, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Glad to see Moustakas still serving them up in Little League...Joel Goldburg was ripped two seasons ago alittle bigger last year, is he back to trip or still somewhat puffy.

Moose has been raking during the spring

ChiliConCarnage · 03-25-2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Every guy in the lineup hit Greinke good. Impressive.

Is Greinke really trying? haven't been able to watch yet. I remember his Cy Young year he had a rough spring. I remember him giving an interview and saying he was only throwing fastball one game, then changeup another, etc. It was simply practice to him. He didn't care if he was getting knocked all over because he threw the same pitch over and over. Just focused on throwing it the way he wanted.

kcjayhawks5 · 03-25-2013, 07:35 PM

Why isn't this on MLBN? Sorry if already been discussed

Cephalic Trauma · 03-25-2013, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

Is Greinke really trying? haven't been able to watch yet. I remember his Cy Young year he had a rough spring. I remember him giving an interview and saying he was only throwing fastball one game, then changeup another, etc. It was simply practice to him. He didn't care if he was getting knocked all over because he threw the same pitch over and over. Just focused on throwing it the way he wanted.

That's pretty accurate of what's going on right now. He's throwing mostly fastballs and hitting 89. It looks like he's throwing BP.

Demonpenz · 03-25-2013, 07:36 PM

Hudler says that Gordon can be a MVP canidate

kcxiv · 03-25-2013, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

Is Greinke really trying? haven't been able to watch yet. I remember his Cy Young year he had a rough spring. I remember him giving an interview and saying he was only throwing fastball one game, then changeup another, etc. It was simply practice to him. He didn't care if he was getting knocked all over because he threw the same pitch over and over. Just focused on throwing it the way he wanted.

Starting pitchers in the preseason are there to get getting their fastball up to par, and pretty much nothing more.

**gblowfish** · 03-25-2013, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Hudler says that Gordon can be a MVP canidate

Hudler is a yorkie on crack.

SPchief · 03-25-2013, 07:39 PM

Idk, Greinke also has only started 2 games (with another in a minor league game) So one would assume that he would be trying to get his stuff together

Cephalic Trauma · 03-25-2013, 07:39 PM

Pitched escobar hard though hitting 94

**Shogun** · 03-25-2013, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcjayhawks5

Why isn't this on MLBN? Sorry if already been discussed

its on FSN in kc.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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