Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged)

[Carlota69]

I just saw it on his Facebook status...

UPDATE:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Update from @mortreport: Cards visit with Andy Reid is off, Chiefs have not scheduled other visits with candidates, hoping to wrap deal Fri.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Thats why i said his rookie year is a wash. He's a run defender let him defend the run. Poe would be the pass rusher next to Hali then **** it. Whatever shuffle the line that tickles your pickle

The idea that Poe's primary position should be in a 3-technique is crazy, crazy, crazy.

His top value is as a 0-technique. His second value is in the 5-technique. And his biggest value is that in a 3-4, he's an unbelievably rare linemen that can one day play all the techniques.

Again, another example of reducing a player to a role that doesn't highlight his strengths.

[DeezNutz]

270 lbs is plenty of weight to play on the end in a 4-3.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The idea that Poe's primary position should be in a 3-technique is crazy, crazy, crazy.

His top value is as a 0-technique. His second value is in the 5-technique. And his biggest value is that in a 3-4, he's an unbelievably rare linemen that can one day play all the techniques.

Again, another example of reducing a player to a role that doesn't highlight his strengths.

Well look i dont know much about this shit Im just spitballing if you will. I just think Poe and Dorsey can play off each other in 43. I gota research and learn about the techniques. Im not gona try and BS like i know everything. Just trying to throw out a dline theory

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

How many of those guys play opposite someone who also weighs that much? I can answer that for you if you want.

I played at 260 in High school back in the late 70's. I was usually the biggest guy on the field.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RustShack

It's crazy how just a short time in the 3-4 made people forget about the 4-3. 3-4 DE's are around 300 lbs, 4-3 DE's are lighter.

Huh? In a 3-4, your OLBs are your traditional 3-4 guys. Your 3-4 DEs tend to be 4-3 DTs, if anything.

The prototypical 4-3 DE is 280+ lbs and has ability to rush the passer and be tough in the trenches against the run. Some have done fine at a lower weight, but not all of them are very good run defenders and many of them get flat-out manhandled by the run. Houston in particular was NOT a good run defender at all in UGA. Hali is NOT very good against the run in a 4-3 and he has physical limitations of short arms.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

270 lbs is plenty of weight to play on the end in a 4-3.

And again, having 2 of them on the same line is just asking for a bottom third run defense.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

We wouldnt be doing the Tampa 2 would we?

Right now, the most smoke is surrounding Monte Kiffin, so yes.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I think Allen Bailey would be a very good rotational DE in the 4-3 as well. He was a BAMF as a 4-3 DE at Miami.

I agree with this.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Well look i dont know much about this shit Im just spitballing if you will. I just think Poe and Dorsey can play off each other in 43. I gota research and learn about the techniques. Im not gona try and BS like i know everything. Just trying to throw out a dline theory

I think Poe might be able to play anywhere. Dorsey just doesn't get it done for me.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I think Poe might be able to play anywhere. Dorsey just doesn't get it done for me.

Well he can be brought back as a run defender. He's good at that. I dont want to switch. We got a good nucleus.

[RunKC]

And I still think that Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe being in the 0 technique firing through the A gap would be awesome.

They are both quick and powerful and have big bodies with long arms to bat passes away in the middle.

[Mother****erJones]

Jackson doesnt do much for me. But he was making some plays unlike Dorsey. Though i like dorsey in the 43

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Anything is better than having the lineman stand at the line and play patty cakes whilst the QB eats a sandwich in the pocket till he spots an open reciever.

[okcchief]

R

[Mother****erJones]

I gota say fellas its SOOOOOO nice to be able to talk about FOOTBALL instead of Egoli. BTW did you guys hear Babb say Pioli referred to himself as Jesus Christ? He said he feels his pain.