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Old 01-02-2013, 08:51 AM  
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Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged)
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Update from @mortreport: Cards visit with Andy Reid is off, Chiefs have not scheduled other visits with candidates, hoping to wrap deal Fri.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:52 PM   #6361
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and we were one of the worst teams against the run in NFL history.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:52 PM   #6362
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Why do these guys continue to hang onto the dream that Dorsey isn't a bust? I've been amazed by this the last couple of years.
Im not saying he ISNT. Im saying he was a rookie in his natural position. Then asked to switch to a completely different scheme he's never played. Im calling it as it is. He's never gotten a fair shake
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:52 PM   #6363
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HE'S 270 POUNDS.

HE'S PLENTY BIG.
You're asking the guy to become a specialist in the trenches, where he's going to have blockers in his face immediately in the run game. Same with Hali. You ask those guys to traditionally be 280-290 lbs because you can't get blown off the ball against every power running team. Where Houston is at, he is going to get exposed in the running game, and if he adds weight he loses a lot of his quickness. Hali struggled some in the run game in a 4-3 because he has small arms, so he's not a guy you want to be constantly fighting in the trenches.

These guys will do fine in the 4-3. But our run defense is going to get lit up.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:53 PM   #6364
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Dorsey sucks.
Just last season (2011) he had a great year 2-gapping. He doesn't suck. He's not elite, but he's a very good run defender. Hard to move. Gets off blocks and makes plays in the running game.

If we go to a 4-3 he should absolutely be here.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:53 PM   #6365
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Lol not too long ago Hali couldn't play in a 3-4, now the same guys are saying him and Houstin can't play in the 4-3.
If you're talking about me, you're wrong. I defended Hali when he was picked, I defended him when he played under Herm, and I was one of the few that said he would excel in the 3-4.
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Just last season he had a great year 2-gapping. He doesn't suck. He's not elite, but he's a very good run defender. Hard to move. Gets off blocks and makes plays in the running game.

If we go to a 4-3 he should absolutely be here.
If we go to Tampa 2, he's not good enough. Period.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:53 PM   #6367
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You ask those guys to traditionally be 280-290 lbs because you can't get blown off the ball against every power running team.
You're a joke. There are tons of 4-3 ends in this league in the 270 pound range.
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Im not saying he ISNT. Im saying he was a rookie in his natural position. Then asked to switch to a completely different scheme he's never played. Im calling it as it is. He's never gotten a fair shake
Bottom line, he has not produced to the value worthy of the slot he was selected in.

If they moved him to corner, I'd agree with you. But he's still on the D-line and he failed.
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How many of those guys play opposite someone who also weighs that much? I can answer that for you if you want.
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If we go to Tampa 2, he's not good enough. Period.
This, I agree with. His pass rush is abysmal.
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It is a little ironic that we're noting the difficulty of finding good players for the 4-3, since this is exactly what we worried about when going to the 3-4 when dickless arrived.

I'll be a little annoyed if we're unnecessarily burning talent just for the sake of switching, but whatever.

The Chiefs were 27th in rush defense, so it could be that the new staff believes the D-line is such shit that a change won't be too big of a deal in the short term, with obvious expectations for long-term success.
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You're a joke. There are tons of 4-3 ends in this league in the 270 pound range.
Yeah, zilla is being silly again.
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