Chiefs Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged) - Page 74

Carlota69 · 11:02 PM

I just saw it on his Facebook status...

UPDATE:

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Update from @mortreport: Cards visit with Andy Reid is off, Chiefs have not scheduled other visits with candidates, hoping to wrap deal Fri.

ToxSocks · 01-02-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I presume you mean for Armstrong.

Koetter's as white as Clark.

That i do. Two birds, one stone.

**ptlyon** · 01-02-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

1st overall pick. Advantage KC.

Poor QB draft class. Advantage AZ.

TEX · 01-02-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

In fact it would be worse, because the fans will tell you you lied.

But he didn't lie. He hasn't said anything. He just has't fired the absolute worst GM in football. See it how you want - I'll do the same. In my opinion there is nothing good about Pioli still being around.

Thig Lyfe · 01-02-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

No one's as white as Clark.

he's pretty fly for a white guy tho

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-02-2013, 03:25 PM

The Iron Sheik must be pissed Reid is no longer in Philly.

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The Iron Sheik‏@the_ironsheik

the Philadelphia Eagle owner Jeffery Lurie you are a no good piece of shit you deserve to get ****ed in the ass by 50 dead dogs forever

DaWolf · 01-02-2013, 03:26 PM

My question about Reid is should we really be pursuing him to be our coach? In some ways I think we might be better off if we identify the next assistant coach who could end up being a great fit for the organization and who exudes leadership and has a plan to bring in the best coordinators he can.

I'm looking at the list of Super Bowl winning coaches since 1981, and 14 of the 20 won the Super Bowl with their first NFL team as a head coach. Only 6 were on their second stints (Shanarat, Vermeil, Gruden, Belichick, Dungy, and Coughlin) and outside of Gruden, who probably could have won the SB had he stayed in Oakland that one year, the other guys all inherited, drafted, or lucked into HOF QB's (assuming Eli Manning ends up in the HOF and you believe that Kurt Warner is a HOF player).

Is Reid going to be in that group of 6, and who is going to be his potential HOF QB? Or should we be looking at the HC position like we do the QB position, and try to get one who starts it here rather than tries to import what he did elsewhere here?

I know it didn't work out with Haley, but that was Pioli making the hire on his own. I think we need to take another swing at it, while making sure whoever we hire has true leadership and delegation skills, is not a control freak like Haley was, and is a sharp football mind. I would pass on Reid...

Chief Roundup · 01-02-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

To be fair, TBG posts rumors. Not fact, rumors.

As of Today, Scott is still an employee. WE don't know what scooter was doing in ATL, but what we DO know is that he still works for Clark, and as such, must still do what Clark asks of him, whatever that might be.

Candy Wrapper detail.

mcaj22 · 01-02-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Was the Vick decision his or the GM's?

Why does his OLine suck so bad? Is it scheme, or just no talent due to GM?

I can answer these,

Vick was the owners decision/big part of deciding to take him on

Andy had one of the best olines assembled prior to the injuries
he lost jason peters, todd herremans, kelce, mathis to long injuries at some point and was playing guys off the street

that oline had 3 pro bowl resumes on it, they were good besides this year

ToxSocks · 01-02-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If they're close and the money is identical or similar, I believe Reid will choose Phoenix because it's only a 45 minute plane ride from his San Diego mansion.

I'm actually surprised the Chargers haven't at least scheduled an interview with him but I've heard they're targeting Arians, so that may explain it.

SD is looking for a classic GM/HC situation. They want their GM hired before a HC. If Reid wants personnel control, that removes SD from the equation.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-02-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The GM who scheduled said interviews is no longer in power, so why keep them?

Professional courtesy in the case of Koetter.

Rooney Rule fulfillment in the case of Armstrong.

General due diligence.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-02-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

2 days ago they finished the season 2-14.

That has nothing to do with what I'm referring to.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-02-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

5 months ago the Chiefs might win 11 or 12 games. Now they aren't nearly as good as Arizona?

The Chiefs have a number of holes that can't be filled in one offseason. Their defense is in major flux and they need help not only on the defensive line but ILB and safety. They have issues at WR, LT, QB and TE and need depth everywhere.

Arizona's defense has played well. There's no question about their scheme. The help they need, outside of QB, can be easily upgraded in the draft. They're much closer to competing.

The 2013 Chiefs are the 2008 Chiefs before the draft. What happens this April will have a huge impact over the next four years. They're teetering on the brink of being irrelevant for four more years if they **** up.

TEX · 01-02-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

5 months ago the Chiefs might win 11 or 12 games. Now they aren't nearly as good as Arizona?

Straight, No Chaser · 01-02-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That said - every team has holes so your discussion is really in the margins. How many more holes do the Chiefs have than the Cardinals? Eh - they look pretty close to me.

Many Cards fans are not excited about Reid, his lack of recent success for one. I think Micheal Bidwell will work hard to sign Reid ASAP (maybe tonight) and try to keep Horton on as coordinator.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-02-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

That has nothing to do with what I'm referring to.

No, you're trying to be funny, and failing miserably.

90% of this board thought this team was winning 10+ games, but feel free to crucify one guy over it.

01-02-2013, 03:26 PM	#1101
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	My question about Reid is should we really be pursuing him to be our coach? In some ways I think we might be better off if we identify the next assistant coach who could end up being a great fit for the organization and who exudes leadership and has a plan to bring in the best coordinators he can. I'm looking at the list of Super Bowl winning coaches since 1981, and 14 of the 20 won the Super Bowl with their first NFL team as a head coach. Only 6 were on their second stints (Shanarat, Vermeil, Gruden, Belichick, Dungy, and Coughlin) and outside of Gruden, who probably could have won the SB had he stayed in Oakland that one year, the other guys all inherited, drafted, or lucked into HOF QB's (assuming Eli Manning ends up in the HOF and you believe that Kurt Warner is a HOF player). Is Reid going to be in that group of 6, and who is going to be his potential HOF QB? Or should we be looking at the HC position like we do the QB position, and try to get one who starts it here rather than tries to import what he did elsewhere here? I know it didn't work out with Haley, but that was Pioli making the hire on his own. I think we need to take another swing at it, while making sure whoever we hire has true leadership and delegation skills, is not a control freak like Haley was, and is a sharp football mind. I would pass on Reid...
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