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Old 01-01-2013, 03:04 PM  
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Is Hunt Telling The Truth?
Don't want to start a panic, but I know we are all thinking the same thing even if we want to ignore it. Clark SAYS he is gonna hire a vet coach that's experienced in what we need and that Pioli won't play a part in the search, but then we keep hearing about guys Pioli has connections with getting interviews and how Clark hasn't even contacted Andy Reid.

I may be jumping the gun here, but this is starting to remind me of last years "we are gonna bring in qb competition" talks that we all know how that ended.

Is this a "fool me once..." type scenario or are all the tree coaches interviewing just bs leaked by Pioli to create the impression he still has his nuts?

Should we be pissed?
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:00 PM   #286
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The guy that loves every QB including Cassel, Tebow, and Alex Smith?
Not saying he's notan aagreeable cockstroker in the media, but do you really think he believes those things? Have you ever seen him publicly criticize someone?
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:01 PM   #287
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Pissed?

**** no.

If he's lying, there's ZERO reason to continue following this team. Period.
And I feel no need to read the other 350 posts in this thread. This is the only answer.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:01 PM   #288
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Nothing like pining for a guy that coached QB's back when Noah was loading the arc - and calling him a definitive upgrade over ANYONE.

Jesus Christ, you don't hire a HEAD COACH simply because he's experienced with QB's.

Ask Cleveland how that worked out.

Hell, ask Seattle how that worked out.
Seattle made a super bowl, was in the playoffs every year but one, and won a playoff game virtually every year. Unless you're saying holmgren was responsible for nagging back injuries to hasselbeck which is what ultimately led to their downfall.

I don't care how it worked out in Cleveland. He failed as a gm in green bay too. And he wasn't on the field coaching qbs.

And the idea that holmgren is out of touch is ridiculous. Again, he coordinated for joe Montana. He coached steve young, a mobile qb. Then he coached Brett favre, a more big Ben like gunslinger. Then matt hasselbeck, a pure pocket qb. Three hall of famers. Hasselbeck was good too. And unlike big Ben, three of those guys were prospects nobody else saw potential in. I don't know what to say if cp is seriously trying to sell that cowher is a better guy for qbs than holmgren. Let me repeat. He coached three hall of fame qbs, with three different styles, in three different eras. If he can coach steve young, he sure as hell can coach Geno smith.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:02 PM   #289
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Not saying he's notan aagreeable cockstroker in the media, but do you really think he believes those things? Have you ever seen him publicly criticize someone?
That's true, he does love everyone at every position. Still not really cool with finding out which ones he doesn't love and which ones he does. I think its pretty damn realistic that Gruden takes Alex Smith with him wherever he ends up.
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Nothing like pining for a guy that coached QB's back when Noah was loading the arc - and calling him a definitive upgrade over ANYONE.

Jesus Christ, you don't hire a HEAD COACH simply because he's experienced with QB's.

Ask Cleveland how that worked out.

Hell, ask Seattle how that worked out.
WTF?

Where are the big QB eff ups in Seattle?

SB appearance w/Holmgren [w/one of the more suspect SB losses in history], way overperforming with a breakout rookie QB under Carroll.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:04 PM   #291
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Clark Hunt is more connected than Ron Wolf
You are telling me you'd rather have Clark Hunt select your head coach than Ron Wolf? Ok.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:05 PM   #293
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The thought process for many with respect to Cowher is that this is someone who has seen and should understand the development of the league. Yes, he emphasized a power running game for the majority of his career. He also never won a SB until he acquired a franchise QB, and this should have been instructive.

I think Alex Smith is a possibility no matter what coach we bring in, but I also firmly believe that the Chiefs will draft a QB, too. It might not be 1/1, though, and this will cause an immediate meltdown. But I could see Smith plus a QB in round 2, with an open competition in camp.

I could see this as being more a possibility, actually, if Gruden is hired because he had a reputation of being an insufferable SOB with rookie QBs. Has this changed? No clue. But he hosts QB Camp, an ESPN construction, so people believe he has.
I am intrigued by gruden because of his obsession with the spread. And because he has stated the importance of a qb. I just haven't seen enough evidence that cow her would not prefer to build a suffocating defense first, a power running game as the centerpiece of the offense, and then a qb who can win games in that context. Do I see him as a guy who would ever go pass first? I don't see it.

I'm not saying he hasn't changed. But right now that's been his history.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:05 PM   #294
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WTF?

Where are the big QB eff ups in Seattle?

SB appearance w/Holmgren [w/one of the more suspect SB losses in history], way overperforming with a breakout rookie QB under Carroll.
Rex Grossman appeared in a SB too.

Sorry, but Matt Hasselbeck isn't going to put anyone over the top for a 65 year old Mike Holmgren.
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Nothing like pining for a guy that coached QB's back when Noah was loading the arc - and calling him a definitive upgrade over ANYONE.

Jesus Christ, you don't hire a HEAD COACH simply because he's experienced with QB's.

Ask Cleveland how that worked out.

Hell, ask Seattle how that worked out.
Um, Seattle had some success with Holmgren. The downfall was not replacing the older players and having a successor for Hasselbeck in place.
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That's true, he does love everyone at every position. Still not really cool with finding out which ones he doesn't love and which ones he does. I think its pretty damn realistic that Gruden takes Alex Smith with him wherever he ends up.
Why do you think that? What's the Alex smith connection I'm missing.
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That's true, he does love everyone at every position. Still not really cool with finding out which ones he doesn't love and which ones he does. I think its pretty damn realistic that Gruden takes Alex Smith with him wherever he ends up.
I think it's likely he doesn't criticize b/c he planned on returning to coaching, and didn’t want to bad mouth someone who might wind up as one of his players...
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:09 PM   #299
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nobody in the NFL gives a single shit about SOC, if they even know what it is

Hunt wants his fan base to buy tickets, that's it


SOC?!?!

****ing please ...
While I agree that no one ultimately gives a shit, only a fool would think they don't know what SOC is, and haven't heard about the things that have been done.
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Why do you think that? What's the Alex smith connection I'm missing.
Gruden loves trash qbs.
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