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Old 01-01-2013, 03:04 PM  
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Is Hunt Telling The Truth?
Don't want to start a panic, but I know we are all thinking the same thing even if we want to ignore it. Clark SAYS he is gonna hire a vet coach that's experienced in what we need and that Pioli won't play a part in the search, but then we keep hearing about guys Pioli has connections with getting interviews and how Clark hasn't even contacted Andy Reid.

I may be jumping the gun here, but this is starting to remind me of last years "we are gonna bring in qb competition" talks that we all know how that ended.

Is this a "fool me once..." type scenario or are all the tree coaches interviewing just bs leaked by Pioli to create the impression he still has his nuts?

Should we be pissed?
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:22 PM   #211
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Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my personal opinion of what's really happening:

Clark has thrown the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and is doing his due diligence while waiting for an answer - which also buys him some time to resolve this Pioli legal bullshit, but prepares him if Cowher was to decline. Possible that he's had similar discussions with guys like Billick and Gruden, but I'd bet it's Cowher's job to decline.

If Bill Cowher wants to come back to coaching, he'll be the next HC of the KC Chiefs. If Cowher is smart, he grabs Omar Khan from Pittsburgh to handle the cap/contracts, while Cowher handles personnel.

As The Bad Guy said in another thread - this has to be a 3-run home run hire for Clark. If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, Ferentz, etc - he's looking at another 4 years of an empty Arrowhead.
That's how I think it goes down.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:22 PM   #212
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I don't see Cowher as a solution...
If the problem is "selling tickets", Cowher is the PERFECT solution.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:22 PM   #213
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Lying about what? That Pioli's future with the Chiefs is yet to be determined?
you have every reason to believe?

Do you still believe Clark is going to "build an org like the Steelers"????

Good for you.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:23 PM   #214
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You mean a guy who was expected to win the heisman his final year of college and dropped to the Steelers? I'm not excited by that.

Cowhers complete QB history is annoying more than anything. He hardly had anything to do with Roethlisberger other than making a fairly easy pick.
Expected to win the Heisman? By who?

Jason White's name was attached the entire year, and the only other guy that even had a chance was Larry Fitzgerald.

And I'm not sure how Ben "dropped" to 11, considering he was never considered an equal of Manning or Rivers.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:23 PM   #215
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You mean a guy who was expected to win the heisman his final year of college and dropped to the Steelers? I'm not excited by that.

Cowhers complete QB history is annoying more than anything. He hardly had anything to do with Roethlisberger other than making a fairly easy pick.
You're not excited by Roethlisberger? That wouldn't be good enough in KC?

As Chiefs fans, we should be well aware that drafting a QB is never "easy" for some people or organizations. 30 years tells us this.

The Heisman probably wasn't ever coming out of Miami of Ohio. But let's say he actually was a viable contender, which he wasn't: doesn't that sound similar to Geno Smith talk? Heisman hopeful who "disappointed"?

And we sure as **** know that, should the Chiefs select him, it will be anything but an "easy choice," though hindsight might suggest otherwise.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:25 PM   #216
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The Chin is well aware by now he only won a SB at the end of his Pitt career because he drafted a stud QB.

He would surely try to replicate his last 5 years in Pitt, not the Kordell Stewart era.
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I just hope that Clark isn't so deadlocked that if Cowher declines, that we don't get royally ****ed and end up with some slapdick out of desperation. Sound familiar?

Cowher just makes too much sense.

Clark's been talking to Marty. You know Marty is going to bat for Cowher, and doing the same for Clark to BC.

Clark has a hard-on for all things Steelers.

Cowher fits the criteria Clark laid out yesterday to a T.

Cowher immediately fills Arrowhead, or at least comes close - certainly brings in more fans than any other possible hire.

Cowher wants total control, and based on Clark's comments yesterday, he's looking for that type of HC.

The question is, how bad does Cowher want to come back to coaching?
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If Cowher could manage to do what he did in Pittsburgh, he would be a LIVING GOD in Kansas City.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:26 PM   #218
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you have every reason to believe?

Do you still believe Clark is going to "build an org like the Steelers"????

Good for you.
If you're convinced he's lying, what reason do you have to continue being a fan?
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If Clark keeps Pioli and hires another of his pals you could see a very empty stadium next year and many STH dropping out....
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:28 PM   #220
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Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my personal opinion of what's really happening:

Clark has thrown the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and is doing his due diligence while waiting for an answer - which also buys him some time to resolve this Pioli legal bullshit, but prepares him if Cowher was to decline. Possible that he's had similar discussions with guys like Billick and Gruden, but I'd bet it's Cowher's job to decline.

If Bill Cowher wants to come back to coaching, he'll be the next HC of the KC Chiefs. If Cowher is smart, he grabs Omar Khan from Pittsburgh to handle the cap/contracts, while Cowher handles personnel.

As The Bad Guy said in another thread - this has to be a 3-run home run hire for Clark. If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, Ferentz, etc - he's looking at another 4 years of an empty Arrowhead.
yup


my fear is cowher = alex smith

clark has already spoken in weasle tongue about fixing the qb position

but i can't blame clark for wanting the great white whale..
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I'm glad he hasn't contacted Andy Reid. Stay the hell away from that.

And I'm gonna hate life if it's Cowher.
You know, Cowher isn't my first choice either - but considering Clark isn't going to go the Gamble, Dorsey or Ross route, it might be the best option left.

Two things will decide how I view the Cowher hire, should it happen.

He better draft a QB at 1.1.

I want to see that he's able and willing to adapt to the fact this is a passing league. If he comes out with his RRPP bullshit trying to win games 10-7 like it's 1995 - I'm done.

I also hope to hell he surrounds himself with a great scouting department, because his draft history is spotty at best.
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You're not excited by Roethlisberger? That wouldn't be good enough in KC?

As Chiefs fans, we should be well aware that drafting a QB is never "easy" for some people or organizations. 30 years tells us this.

The Heisman probably wasn't ever coming out of Miami of Ohio. But let's say he actually was a viable contender, which he wasn't: doesn't that sound similar to Geno Smith talk? Heisman hopeful who "disappointed"?

And we sure as **** know that, should the Chiefs select him, it will be anything but an "easy choice" in hindsight.
The point is a fair one. Did Cowher beg for big Ben? Or was it luck that he fell that low? Despite drafting him, big Ben was a game manager under Cowher. He became a passer after Cowher left. I'd be much more excited by Gruden or Holmgren. I have much more confidence in them to develop a QB.
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If Clark keeps Pioli and hires another of his pals you could see a very empty stadium next year and many STH dropping out....
It's literally not possible for Pioli to have any viable role now that Clark pulled down Scott's pants and showed us his misshapen phallus.
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I think I'd rather have Reid...Then again Cowher does have a super bowl ring...
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The point is a fair one. Did Cowher beg for big Ben? Or was it luck that he fell that low? Despite drafting him, big Ben was a game manager under Cowher. He became a passer after Cowher left. I'd be much more excited by Gruden or Holmgren. I have much more confidence in them to develop a QB.
He was also a developing QB at the time, and it was somewhat unconventional for a n00b A.) to be playing and B.) to be succeeding.

Don't let presenticism color your view of history.
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