2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[dirk digler]

I am not a huge baseball fan so I don't know if the trade was good or not. But it seems to me this is what happens when you have a cheap owner who is unwilling to spend money.

[BigCatDaddy]

What about moving Cain to RF and playing Dyson at CF?

[eazyb81]

Simply replacing Frenchy with Myers would have provided the same upside as adding Shields to the lineup.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yeah, just look at the list of previous Baseball America MLPOY prospects:

PREVIOUS WINNERS
1981 Mike Marshall, 1b, Dodgers
1982 Ron Kittle, of, White Sox
1983 Dwight Gooden, rhp, Mets
1984 Mike Bielecki, rhp, Pirates
1985 Jose Canseco, of, Athletics
1986 Gregg Jefferies, ss, Mets
1987 Gregg Jefferies, ss, Mets
1988 Tom Gordon, rhp, Royals
1989 Sandy Alomar Jr., c, Padres
1990 Frank Thomas, 1b, White Sox
1991 Derek Bell, of, Blue Jays
1992 Tim Salmon, of, Angels
1993 Manny Ramirez, of, Indians
1994 Derek Jeter, ss, Yankees
1995 Andruw Jones, of, Braves
1996 Andruw Jones, of, Braves
1997 Paul Konerko, 1b, Dodgers
1998 Eric Chavez, 3b, Athletics
1999 Rick Ankiel, lhp, Cardinals
2000 Jon Rauch, rhp, White Sox
2001 Josh Beckett, rhp, Marlins
2002 Rocco Baldelli, of, Devil Rays
2003 Joe Mauer, c, Twins
2004 Jeff Francis, lhp, Rockies
2005 Delmon Young, of, Devil Rays
2006 Alex Gordon, 3b, Royals
2007 Jay Bruce, of, Reds
2008 Matt Wieters, c, Orioles
2009 Jason Heyward, of, Braves
2010 Jeremy Hellickson, rhp, Rays
2011 Mike Trout, of, Angels

Jon Rauch?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am not a huge baseball fan so I don't know if the trade was good or not. But it seems to me this is what happens when you have a cheap owner who is unwilling to spend money.

He's spent enough money this off-season. The potential problem (*trying to provide a positive spin*) is how our GM allocated those funds. But this is new; we've never seen this before.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Rany on 810. Owning. Scary Shields' splits.

And largely meaningless because Shields is now going to another pitcher's park for his home games and no longer has to pitch at Yankee Stadium, Fenway, Rogers Centre, or Camden Yards for most of his road games.

Shields should do very well in KC, I don't know why anybody would even try to argue differently. You can say this is a bad trade without having to denigrate Shields or his impressive abilities.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

What about moving Cain to RF and playing Dyson at CF?

Any option that has Dyson as a starting CF is FUBAR

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Any option that has Dyson as a starting CF is FUBAR

It's truly a debate about the lesser of two evils. It could well be that Dyson's defensive value and speed could make him a better option. Neither can hit; we know that.

Not digging into the numbers because I just washed my hands and don't want to smell like shit this early in the morning.

[SAUTO]

i still feel like crying

[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

And largely meaningless because Shields is now going to another pitcher's park for his home games and no longer has to pitch at Yankee Stadium, Fenway, Rogers Centre, or Camden Yards for most of his road games.

Shields should do very well in KC, I don't know why anybody would even try to argue differently. You can say this is a bad trade without having to denigrate Shields or his impressive abilities.

This is 100 Percent agree. Any guy that strikes out more than 200 batters in the American League is the kind of guy you want starting in a playoff game. "Big Game James" is the man. If we have a couple of winning seasons, we may even be able to resign the guy. This is a move we HAD to make.

[BlackHelicopters]

Trembling. Vomiting. Pounding headache. Sweating. Blurred vision. I want to be wrong.

[bobinkc]

Love this move....it's time the Royals had some balls and did something...looking forward to next season.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by bobinkc

Love this move....it's time the Royals had some balls and did something...looking forward to next season.

you have got to be him.


i thought you would have offed yourself by now

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

This is 100 Percent agree. Any guy that strikes out more than 200 batters in the American League is the kind of guy you want starting in a playoff game. "Big Game James" is the man. If we have a couple of winning seasons, we may even be able to resign the guy. This is a move we HAD to make.

His away splits the last 2 years were like 3.5 and 3.3 ERA. So recently it hasn't mattered.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's truly a debate about the lesser of two evils. It could well be that Dyson's defensive value and speed could make him a better option. Neither can hit; we know that.

Not digging into the numbers because I just washed my hands and don't want to smell like shit this early in the morning.

I would rather have Dyson playing everyday than Frenchy. No doubt about it.