2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

All that's left of the Greinke deal is Escobar and Cain.

They'll be traded for Terry Pendelton and Sid Bream this year.

Don't you worry.

[KevB]

Cole Manbeck ‏@Cole_Manbeck
Man dayton moore is an absolute trainwreck for a gm. Just sacrificed everything to save his job

I suggested a while back in this thread that Execs do weird things to save their own skin. People scoffed at me. Welp......

[Hootie]

they should have just traded Hosmer for Shields

**** Hosmer

Myers is going to be a freaking year in and year all-star...we get two years of Shields

whooopdeedoo

[DJ's left nut]

I still can't get my head around this one.

I just can't fathom that baseball men, people that get paid vast sums of money to make their teams competitive, signed off on this deal.

This just makes no sense on any level. Even if Myers sucks, it's still a stupid trade because Myers could've been traded for far more than this in terms of long-term value. Shields was probably as good a 'win now' pitcher as you would get for Myers, but holy hell, how do you make this deal?

The Shelby Miller for Will Myers deal would've made far more sense.

This is the kind of trade you make if you're willing to commit to a top 10 payroll and at least played .500 ball the year before.

It's not a deal you make on a $75 million payroll with another 90 loss season under your belt.

I can't even bring myself to flip you guys any shit. This is just tragic.

[Prison Bitch]

We could've waited them out for Matt Moore. I'm amazed how stupid this man is. But he knows he is on a short leash anyway, what the **** does he care if it blows up? He'll walk out of KC earning almost $10M win or lose.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Ok so let me play devil's advocate. Prospects are just that, prospects. It is almost like playing the lottery as if they will produce at the major league level. Plenty of prospects have flown through the minors with start like numbers, only to fade out at the major league level.

As we watched last year, our offense can score but we just need pitching. Throw the same offense up to the plate next year, hope for better numbers from Hosmer, and with the rotation we now have can we win?

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

You are going to have to give up a ton to get anything out there. Glad to see we actually trade prospects for Major League players.

I guess that is kind of what I am saying....

[Hootie]

they should have just traded Hosmer for Shields

**** Hosmer

Myers is going to be a freaking year in and year all-star...we get two years of Shields

whooopdeedoo

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

The starting pitching has been the biggest problem and it's gotten better. Probably significantly better. It sucks out loud to lose Myers and Odorizzi but they weren't on the mlb club anyway. At least it looks like they're trying to win "now." I know that's not in line with the meltdown but it's not the end of the world. Win now and it'll be good.

Please excuse the sliver lining. Or don't. Whatever.

[OnTheWarpath15]

@BertDbacks: Wow. Had this trade been announced Saturday, Andrew Friedman would have won the Heisman. #Rays #Royals

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever

It sucks out loud to lose Myers and Odorizzi but they weren't on the mlb club anyway.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever

The starting pitching has been the biggest problem and it's gotten better. Probably significantly better. It sucks out loud to lose Myers and Odorizzi but they weren't on the mlb club anyway. At least it looks like they're trying to win "now." I know that's not in line with the meltdown but it's not the end of the world. Win now and it'll be good.

Please excuse the sliver lining. Or don't. Whatever.

There is no silver lining. The team, quite literally, is worse right now. An average RF, which Myers almost certainly would be, is worth more wins than adding Shields to the rotation.

This is so inexplicably stupid that it defies all semblance of reason.

[siberian khatru]

If you're gonna give up all these prospects, then you also have to force the Rays to take some salary -- Hochevar or Chen. But DM couldn't even do that.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever

The starting pitching has been the biggest problem and it's gotten better. Probably significantly better. It sucks out loud to lose Myers and Odorizzi but they weren't on the mlb club anyway. At least it looks like they're trying to win "now." I know that's not in line with the meltdown but it's not the end of the world. Win now and it'll be good.

Please excuse the sliver lining. Or don't. Whatever.

Excellent reasoning here.

[Demonpenz]

Mark Quinn

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I still can't get my head around this one.

I just can't fathom that baseball men, people that get paid vast sums of money to make their teams competitive, signed off on this deal.

This just makes no sense on any level. Even if Myers sucks, it's still a stupid trade because Myers could've been traded for far more than this in terms of long-term value. Shields was probably as good a 'win now' pitcher as you would get for Myers, but holy hell, how do you make this deal?

The Shelby Miller for Will Myers deal would've made far more sense.

This is the kind of trade you make if you're willing to commit to a top 10 payroll and at least played .500 ball the year before.

It's not a deal you make on a $75 million payroll with another 90 loss season under your belt.

I can't even bring myself to flip you guys any shit. This is just tragic.

Like I told OTWP, had MO known DM was this stupid, he could have flipped him some of our young pitching for Myers.