Chiefs Mellinger: The Chiefs Have Hit Rock Bottom - Page 5

FloridaMan88 · 10-28-2012, 09:36 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/28...ck-bottom.html

Chiefs have hit rock bottom

By Sam Mellinger

The Kansas City Star

The picture of the Chiefs’ now historical level of “professional” football incompetence is their overmatched head coach, asked a simple question about why his star running back only got five carries in another blowout loss, saying “I’m not exactly sure.”

The Chiefs are beyond disappointment, beyond even the kind of stink that makes your eyes water, and are now neck-deep in the all-time pool of pathetic with Matt Millen’s Lions, Turner Gill’s Jayhawks and Buddy Bell’s Royals.

Keep in mind, the Raiders stink, too. They won only two games this season before beating the Chiefs 26-16, a sort-of-close final score that makes it seem like the Chiefs had a chance.

Here’s coach Romeo Crennel’s explanation:

“Well, generally, if the other team is able to score, that puts you down,” he says. “… You can say this is similar to what we’ve been talking about all along. We get penalties at inopportune times, we turn the ball over, then we allow teams to score.”

These are your Chiefs, Kansas City. And with the next two games shown nationally in prime time, the rest of the country will see why you’ve been booing so much, and why it’s past time for the coach and general manager to be fired.

At some point, the team may just be bad enough for owner Clark Hunt to break his silence.

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A few weeks ago, Crennel put up a sign in the locker room that will ensure he never gets another head-coaching job. On it, he urged the team to “ELIMINATE BAD FOOTBALL.”

Just a humble suggestion here, but maybe the new sign should say: “OK, LET’S JUST ELIMINATE HISTORICALLY INEPT FOOTBALL AND THEN WE’LL WORRY ABOUT MERELY BAD FOOTBALL.”

You might’ve heard this stat by now, but it’s so amazing it should be repeated a million times and shouted from the rooftops and included in every story once Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli are canned for leading this mess: The Chiefs are the first team to go seven weeks without a lead in regulation since 1940.

Nineteen-forty.

Do you know what the NFL was in 1940? The Brooklyn Dodgers finished second in the NFL’s Eastern Division. The Pittsburgh Pirates renamed themselves the Steelers. Players had day jobs. Lamar Hunt turned 8 years old.

The men in charge of today’s NFL have taken great strides to make sure a team is never so unable to compete with other professional teams that it trails six of seven games by at least 17 points. That’s a staple of the NFL’s success, actually. The league is built on parity.

The Chiefs have become parody.

Think about this: The Royals haven’t played in 25 days, finished their season like dogs, and still have two wins since the Chiefs’ last victory.

The Chiefs have been a fireable offense for Crennel and Pioli, but now the team is bad enough that the men in charge might think about apologizing when they’re fired.

This is an all-time level of pathetic, bad enough that fans are paying to fly banners mocking the team over the stadium, and incompetent enough that fans are already wearing paper bags and plan on coming to the next game dressed in mourning. At least one fan wrote to the team demanding his tickets be refunded — and they were.

This is the team Pioli has spent four offseasons and four drafts building.

Much has been said — both on the record and off — about how bad the Chiefs were when Pioli was hired, and only some of it is exaggerated. They won two games the year before, and the coach Pioli hired famously told the players he inherited that he could win two games with 22 guys off the street. Well, the Chiefs still haven’t won two games this season with the presumed “Right 53” guys that Pioli has spent four years accumulating.

He has talked so much about changing the Chiefs’ losing culture, but really, he’s just updated it.

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Hunt hasn’t said a word publicly about any of this, which is being taken by some fans as a sign of detachment. That perception is understandable, but also wrong.

Hunt is listening to angry fans, responding to some personally, inviting a few to lunch … and at least one for a two-hour meeting in his office. He talked publicly during last year’s bye week. His silence now may be frustrating, but indications are that it’s purposeful.

A source distanced the team from a report of an extension for Pioli, remember, and if Hunt says anything publicly now, he’s going to be asked about his faith in Pioli. At the very least, that appears to be a question he’s not willing to answer at the moment.

Hunt hired and has supported Pioli. Nearly everybody thought it was the best hire the Chiefs could make at the time. Hunt wants to believe in Pioli. Hunt wants to build a franchise like the Steelers, the NFL’s model of consistency, and firing a GM after four seasons is a rotten way to do it.

But this team is pathetic enough he may not have a choice.

**Bugeater** · 10-29-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

I would fire Daboll at the very least today if I were Romeo. Someone needs to be fired today.

Oh, I'm sure Pioli is ready to drop the hammer on a beer vendor today for not meeting his sales quota.

Coogs · 10-29-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I am at the point where if we had to let go of Hali, Bowe, Berry, Houston, etc. just to get rid of Pioli's regime I would accept it.

Think of it as an "expansion franchise" experience.

Peter King is suggesting the Seahawks should offer up a 4th for Bowe in his MMQB article today.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...p&sct=hp_wr_a2

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-29-2012, 08:38 AM

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oldman · 10-29-2012, 08:54 AM

I'm going to both disagree and agree with you, FAX.
Firing Pioli now would not hurt the Chiefs one bit. What's he going to do between now and the end of the season? Tomorrow is the trade deadline and I doubt he's got a blockbuster lined up.
I will agree that a total house cleaning now makes no sense. Who would be the HC? Daboll--no thanks. The only ones I would even consider would be Zorn and ET, a 69 year old.
I'll also agree with you about Clark. I'm pretty sure he's pissed. This is not what he expected and wants. His lack of public comment is just something you do when you're the CEO of a multi-million dollar business. With a few notable exceptions, you don't run your mouth in the media and stay in business very long. However, it's all about perception. You don't allow the inmates (the fans) to run the asylum. I'm sure a day of reckoning is coming, I just don't know when.

TEX · 10-29-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

I'm going to both disagree and agree with you, FAX.
Firing Pioli now would not hurt the Chiefs one bit. What's he going to do between now and the end of the season? Tomorrow is the trade deadline and I doubt he's got a blockbuster lined up.
I will agree that a total house cleaning now makes no sense. Who would be the HC? Daboll--no thanks. The only ones I would even consider would be Zorn and ET, a 69 year old.
I'll also agree with you about Clark. I'm pretty sure he's pissed. This is not what he expected and wants. His lack of public comment is just something you do when you're the CEO of a multi-million dollar business. With a few notable exceptions, you don't run your mouth in the media and stay in business very long. However, it's all about perception. You don't allow the inmates (the fans) to run the asylum. I'm sure a day of reckoning is coming, I just don't know when.

I agree. If you fire Pioli now and get someone in place before the draft - they can get a heads up on the talent. I'm afraid that if something isn't done now, Clark wil have an excuse not to.

**notorious** · 10-29-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Peter King is suggesting the Seahawks should offer up a 4th for Bowe in his MMQB article today.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...p&sct=hp_wr_a2

Don't get me wrong, I would still be upset, but at least the cancer would be gone.

blaise · 10-29-2012, 08:59 AM

I wouldn't watch the Chiefs play football if they were in my back yard.

**Rausch** · 10-29-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Peter King is suggesting the Seahawks should offer up a 4th for Bowe in his MMQB article today.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...p&sct=hp_wr_a2

I'm worried about this tool doing something stupid like that and ruining the team even further before his public hanging...

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-29-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by spanky 52

I'm afraid we're stuck with these turds until the end of the season. Nothing will change if Pioli isn't canned. No one with any ability is going to want to coach this team while he's here.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

**1ChiefsDan** · 10-29-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

You are indeed inscrutable, Mr. mr. tegu.

Firing the hell out of people is all well and good, but how are you going to fill the vacuum created with you do? This season is a goner. Clark gains nothing by firing Pioli now. It just makes the entire process more difficult.

I certainly wouldn't interpret Clark's lack of public action as an indication that he's pleased with Pioli's performance or that he's hoping for a miracle.

FAX

Sorry Fax, don't agree.

Flush the toilet. Get them out of here. Bring in a group of poo throwing monkeys and they can do just as good a job as the current staff.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-29-2012, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

Peter King is suggesting the Seahawks should offer up a 4th for Bowe in his MMQB article today.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...p&sct=hp_wr_a2

A 4th? **** him

BlackHelicopters · 10-29-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise

I wouldn't watch the Chiefs play football if they were in my back yard.

Calling what the Chiefs do "football" is quite a stretch.

**The Franchise** · 10-29-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Don't get me wrong, I would still be upset, but at least the cancer would be gone.

Bowe isn't a cancer.....

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oldman · 10-29-2012, 10:20 AM

Why on earth would you take anything less than a 2 or multiple lower round picks for Bowe unless you want him gone? We'll get a comp 3 if he walks. To take a 4 only is shooting yourself in the foot.

Sorter · 10-29-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Why on earth would you take anything less than a 2 or multiple lower round picks for Bowe unless you want him gone? We'll get a comp 3 if he walks. To take a 4 only is shooting yourself in the foot.

^^^This. Additionally, this is probably why a deal hasn't been made.

10-28-2012, 09:36 PM
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-497094	Mellinger: The Chiefs Have Hit Rock Bottom http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/28...ck-bottom.html Chiefs have hit rock bottom By Sam Mellinger The Kansas City Star The picture of the Chiefs’ now historical level of “professional” football incompetence is their overmatched head coach, asked a simple question about why his star running back only got five carries in another blowout loss, saying “I’m not exactly sure.” The Chiefs are beyond disappointment, beyond even the kind of stink that makes your eyes water, and are now neck-deep in the all-time pool of pathetic with Matt Millen’s Lions, Turner Gill’s Jayhawks and Buddy Bell’s Royals. Keep in mind, the Raiders stink, too. They won only two games this season before beating the Chiefs 26-16, a sort-of-close final score that makes it seem like the Chiefs had a chance. Here’s coach Romeo Crennel’s explanation: “Well, generally, if the other team is able to score, that puts you down,” he says. “… You can say this is similar to what we’ve been talking about all along. We get penalties at inopportune times, we turn the ball over, then we allow teams to score.” These are your Chiefs, Kansas City. And with the next two games shown nationally in prime time, the rest of the country will see why you’ve been booing so much, and why it’s past time for the coach and general manager to be fired. At some point, the team may just be bad enough for owner Clark Hunt to break his silence. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A few weeks ago, Crennel put up a sign in the locker room that will ensure he never gets another head-coaching job. On it, he urged the team to “ELIMINATE BAD FOOTBALL.” Just a humble suggestion here, but maybe the new sign should say: “OK, LET’S JUST ELIMINATE HISTORICALLY INEPT FOOTBALL AND THEN WE’LL WORRY ABOUT MERELY BAD FOOTBALL.” You might’ve heard this stat by now, but it’s so amazing it should be repeated a million times and shouted from the rooftops and included in every story once Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli are canned for leading this mess: The Chiefs are the first team to go seven weeks without a lead in regulation since 1940. Nineteen-forty. Do you know what the NFL was in 1940? The Brooklyn Dodgers finished second in the NFL’s Eastern Division. The Pittsburgh Pirates renamed themselves the Steelers. Players had day jobs. Lamar Hunt turned 8 years old. The men in charge of today’s NFL have taken great strides to make sure a team is never so unable to compete with other professional teams that it trails six of seven games by at least 17 points. That’s a staple of the NFL’s success, actually. The league is built on parity. The Chiefs have become parody. Think about this: The Royals haven’t played in 25 days, finished their season like dogs, and still have two wins since the Chiefs’ last victory. The Chiefs have been a fireable offense for Crennel and Pioli, but now the team is bad enough that the men in charge might think about apologizing when they’re fired. This is an all-time level of pathetic, bad enough that fans are paying to fly banners mocking the team over the stadium, and incompetent enough that fans are already wearing paper bags and plan on coming to the next game dressed in mourning. At least one fan wrote to the team demanding his tickets be refunded — and they were. This is the team Pioli has spent four offseasons and four drafts building. Much has been said — both on the record and off — about how bad the Chiefs were when Pioli was hired, and only some of it is exaggerated. They won two games the year before, and the coach Pioli hired famously told the players he inherited that he could win two games with 22 guys off the street. Well, the Chiefs still haven’t won two games this season with the presumed “Right 53” guys that Pioli has spent four years accumulating. He has talked so much about changing the Chiefs’ losing culture, but really, he’s just updated it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hunt hasn’t said a word publicly about any of this, which is being taken by some fans as a sign of detachment. That perception is understandable, but also wrong. Hunt is listening to angry fans, responding to some personally, inviting a few to lunch … and at least one for a two-hour meeting in his office. He talked publicly during last year’s bye week. His silence now may be frustrating, but indications are that it’s purposeful. A source distanced the team from a report of an extension for Pioli, remember, and if Hunt says anything publicly now, he’s going to be asked about his faith in Pioli. At the very least, that appears to be a question he’s not willing to answer at the moment. Hunt hired and has supported Pioli. Nearly everybody thought it was the best hire the Chiefs could make at the time. Hunt wants to believe in Pioli. Hunt wants to build a franchise like the Steelers, the NFL’s model of consistency, and firing a GM after four seasons is a rotten way to do it. But this team is pathetic enough he may not have a choice.
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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	I'm going to both disagree and agree with you, FAX. Firing Pioli now would not hurt the Chiefs one bit. What's he going to do between now and the end of the season? Tomorrow is the trade deadline and I doubt he's got a blockbuster lined up. I will agree that a total house cleaning now makes no sense. Who would be the HC? Daboll--no thanks. The only ones I would even consider would be Zorn and ET, a 69 year old. I'll also agree with you about Clark. I'm pretty sure he's pissed. This is not what he expected and wants. His lack of public comment is just something you do when you're the CEO of a multi-million dollar business. With a few notable exceptions, you don't run your mouth in the media and stay in business very long. However, it's all about perception. You don't allow the inmates (the fans) to run the asylum. I'm sure a day of reckoning is coming, I just don't know when.
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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	Why on earth would you take anything less than a 2 or multiple lower round picks for Bowe unless you want him gone? We'll get a comp 3 if he walks. To take a 4 only is shooting yourself in the foot.
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