Royals 2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 537

**alnorth** · 10:54 PM

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:

Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2012, 08:54 PM

Well, Indians hire Terry Francona. I fully expect them to make the playoffs again before the Royals do.

*uck this franchise.

Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2012, 08:54 PM

Well, Indians hire Terry Francona. I fully expect them to make the playoffs again before the Royals do.

*uck this franchise.

stonedstooge · 10-06-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Well, Indians hire Terry Francona. I fully expect them to make the playoffs again before the Royals do.

*uck this franchise.

We got Leadhead Ned. How does it get any better than that? If he only ****s up half as many games next year as he did this year, we'll finish less than 10 games under .500 next year. FORWARD--OUR TIME

BWillie · 10-06-2012, 11:30 PM

We should have fired Ned. Hired Francona

duncan_idaho · 10-08-2012, 02:34 PM

Interesting piece from Dutton today re: offseason.

Click here for info on pitching pursuit

Sounds like the team is foolishly going to offer arbitration to Hochevar, Getz and Brayan Pena (at a combined price tag of around $7-8 million). Good call, guys.

Glass and Moore are going to have to SHOW ME the commitment to acquiring starters - real starters - before I believe they'll hit my long-held goal of division title competition in 2013. Glimmer of hope, but I'm not going to get caught expecting it!

**DeezNutz** · 10-08-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Interesting piece from Dutton today re: offseason.

Click here for info on pitching pursuit

Sounds like the team is foolishly going to offer arbitration to Hochevar, Getz and Brayan Pena (at a combined price tag of around $7-8 million). Good call, guys.

Glass and Moore are going to have to SHOW ME the commitment to acquiring starters - real starters - before I believe they'll hit my long-held goal of division title competition in 2013. Glimmer of hope, but I'm not going to get caught expecting it!

Rany had a great update on Sat. Essentially, keeping Hoch will mean that Chen or Mendoza are bumped from the rotation, and both are far better options than Hoch.

Otherwise, we're looking at acquiring only one starter, which isn't enough.

Real focus of the article is Haren, and Rany is suggesting what many of us have: Angels pick up option, we trade a few nice pieces.

**alnorth** · 10-08-2012, 03:00 PM

Why in the holy hell would we keep Hoch?

**DeezNutz** · 10-08-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Why in the holy hell would we keep Hoch?

DM is dumb as ****?

**alnorth** · 10-08-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

DM is dumb as ****?

This off-season is going to tell us a lot about DM's ability as a GM. When you don't have resources or you are going with a youth movement, ok whatever. When its time to step up and your owner basically says, publicly, that he's giving you an extra 20 million to go get 2 or 3 guys, you cant screw that up.

Hopefully he pulls it off, but if we discover irrefutably that DM is a moron whose only talent is perhaps in the draft, then we're doomed.

edit: As for Hoch, I'd just offer him a minor league contract and an invitation to spring training with the expectation that he'll probably be stored away in Omaha. If he doesn't want that, (I assume no one will trade for him) release him and wish him well.

**DeezNutz** · 10-08-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

This off-season is going to tell us a lot about DM's ability as a GM. When you don't have resources or you are going with a youth movement, ok whatever. When its time to step up and your owner basically says, publicly, that he's giving you an extra 20 million to go get 2 or 3 guys, you cant screw that up.

Hopefully he pulls it off, but if we discover irrefutably that DM is a moron whose only talent is perhaps in the draft, then we're doomed.

FTR, I don't believe Glass is going to provide the necessary resources to sign two legit pitchers. 20 million wouldn't get this done anyway.

Far too many references to a "dearth of pitching" and "small market" not to read the signs at this point. That said, retaining Hoch, who is BRL, is gross incompetence on a Piolian level.

Deberg_1990 · 10-08-2012, 03:08 PM

I think they almost have Hoch fixed.
No really, for real this time.
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KevB · 10-08-2012, 03:09 PM

DM thinks that hoarding "assets" is the right approach above all, so I have no doubt we'll bring back Hoch. Same concept on how he's managed the 40 man rosters. Ultimately, that will be used as the excuse for not bringing in more than 1 SP. "We have depth with Hoch, Chen, Mendoza, etc." will be the message.

Deberg_1990 · 10-08-2012, 03:10 PM

I fully expect DM to be gone next offseason after another 74 win season. Mark it down.
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**DeezNutz** · 10-08-2012, 03:10 PM

DM: hoarder.

No wonder the K smells.

**DeezNutz** · 10-08-2012, 03:11 PM

DM: hoarder.

No wonder the K smells.

10-06-2012, 08:54 PM	#8041
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $324454	Well, Indians hire Terry Francona. I fully expect them to make the playoffs again before the Royals do. *uck this franchise. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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10-06-2012, 08:54 PM	#8042
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $324454	Well, Indians hire Terry Francona. I fully expect them to make the playoffs again before the Royals do. *uck this franchise. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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10-06-2012, 11:30 PM	#8044
BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1248759	We should have fired Ned. Hired Francona
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10-08-2012, 02:34 PM	#8045
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1909692	Interesting piece from Dutton today re: offseason. Click here for info on pitching pursuit Sounds like the team is foolishly going to offer arbitration to Hochevar, Getz and Brayan Pena (at a combined price tag of around $7-8 million). Good call, guys. Glass and Moore are going to have to SHOW ME the commitment to acquiring starters - real starters - before I believe they'll hit my long-held goal of division title competition in 2013. Glimmer of hope, but I'm not going to get caught expecting it! __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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10-08-2012, 03:00 PM	#8047
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Why in the holy hell would we keep Hoch? __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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10-08-2012, 03:08 PM	#8051
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $324454	I think they almost have Hoch fixed. No really, for real this time. Posted via Mobile Device
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10-08-2012, 03:09 PM	#8052
KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	DM thinks that hoarding "assets" is the right approach above all, so I have no doubt we'll bring back Hoch. Same concept on how he's managed the 40 man rosters. Ultimately, that will be used as the excuse for not bringing in more than 1 SP. "We have depth with Hoch, Chen, Mendoza, etc." will be the message.
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10-08-2012, 03:10 PM	#8053
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $324454	I fully expect DM to be gone next offseason after another 74 win season. Mark it down. Posted via Mobile Device
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