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**pr_capone** · 09-23-2012, 11:55 PM

yeah, yeah... only week 3 and a lot of shit can change from now to draft date. this is the ONLY thing that will make me renew my season tix next year.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

My only hope is that he has an off game or two... Lord knows Pioli won't trade up for him.

tredadda · 09-26-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It does.

But again - I wasn't impressed with him last season. His stats were fine, but I didn't like what I saw in his game at all.

So when I see the guy struggling, I'll give him some deference for the situation, but it's also going to confirm my thought that he was overrated from the jump.

OK, fair enough.

**RealSNR** · 09-26-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Geno Smith plays in a Dana Holgorson offense that is anything but pro style. There is some offensive talent at WVU as well. Not trying to downplay him or build up Wilson, but things need to remain n perspective when evaluating both of them. Smith is lighting it up against clearly inferior teams. I want to see how he does against a team with a more stout defense if they play against any this year.

When the spread protects a QB from pressure and allows him to sit back and lob shit to receivers less than 15 yards downfield, then it's not very impressive.

Geno Smith has faced terrible teams, but regardless of that he's faced intense pressure in games and still found way to extend plays and make things work nicely.

He faces off against #25-ranked Baylor this Saturday on FX. He could be in for quite a ride in a shootout. I think if he proves he can win games like this consistently, he's absolutely the real deal. And I'm pretty confident he'll do well in this matchup.

DJ's left nut · 09-26-2012, 08:01 PM

Texas and OU will tell a lot - how can he handle premium athletes on the defensive side of the ball?

K-State will tell even more - how can he handle smart, disciplined football teams that are going to be coached to the hilt and won't beat themselves.

We'll know what we need to know about Geno Smith this season, of that I am certain.

O.city · 09-26-2012, 08:02 PM

The reason the media knocks spread guys is that the spread used to be a more run oriented throw second type teams that hid qbs. Basically the tebow spread.

Now, it does tnd to hurt qbs because they don't really learn the progression side of it

Bewbies · 09-26-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The reason the media knocks spread guys is that the spread used to be a more run oriented throw second type teams that hid qbs. Basically the tebow spread.

Now, it does tnd to hurt qbs because they don't really learn the progression side of it

Which is why so many rookies are coming into the league and tearing it up.

**BossChief** · 09-26-2012, 09:18 PM

Wilson basically threw hos teammates under the bus after missing the Alabama game, too.

Very antileader, if you ask me.

Mr_Tomahawk · 09-26-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Wilson basically threw hos teammates under the bus after missing the Alabama game, too.

Very antileader, if you ask me.

Is our franchise in the position to pass on a player like Wilson because he called out his team after getting shutout? Its not like he punched a teammate or something...

**BossChief** · 09-26-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Is our franchise in the position to pass on a player like Wilson because he called out his team after getting shutout? Its not like he punched a teammate or something...

What's the difference? Both of those acts are things a true leader should NEVER do.

Those comments were every bit as bad (or worse) than Cassel saying he "graded out perfectly after throwing 4 picks against Buffalo.

If/when we draft a high first round quarterback, I sure hope he is the kind of player that inspires his teammates, not the opposite.

**RealSNR** · 09-26-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Is our franchise in the position to pass on a player like Wilson because he called out his team after getting shutout? Its not like he punched a teammate or something...

Nick Foles was in Wilson's position last year and also underwhelmed people in his last season.

Foles didn't throw his team under the bus, but his draft stock dropped pretty far after being thought of as a potential top-10 pick to begin last year. It's the responsibility of the pro team to take this into account when deciding whether or not to draft the guy.

I'm sure Wilson's a hard worker and a good guy, but that's just something you don't do. You can bet your ass pro teams are going to grill him about it when he does his interviews.

Wilson's gotta turn on the jets now, I think. No more pussyfooting around. He's in danger of dropping out way past the top 10 at this rate.

**BossChief** · 09-26-2012, 10:22 PM

Foles defense and his poor pro day absolutely screwed the shit out of his draft stock worse than a few lines of coke did for Mallett.

DJ's left nut · 10-02-2012, 12:03 PM

Well that didn't take long:

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

Geno #1 to the Browns. He has us taking the unbelievably over-hyped Tyler Wilson.

Fortunately Wilson will be down to a 2nd round draft grade by draft time. Here's hoping Bray enters.

swayy07 · 10-02-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well that didn't take long:

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

Geno #1 to the Browns. He has us taking the unbelievably over-hyped Tyler Wilson.

Fortunately Wilson will be down to a 2nd round draft grade by draft time. Here's hoping Bray enters.

idk i think Holmgren gets at least another year and if he gets another year then so does Weeden and are u really gunna spend back to back first round picks on qb's?

**RealSNR** · 10-02-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by swayy07

idk i think Holmgren gets at least another year and if he gets another year then so does Weeden and are u really gunna spend back to back first round picks on qb's?

He values the position enough that he was willing to piss away a first rounder on Brandon Weeden.

You bet your ass he'd spend another on a QB

**The Franchise** · 10-02-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

He values the position enough that he was willing to piss away a first rounder on Brandon Weeden.

You bet your ass he'd spend another on a QB

There is no way that the Browns have the #1 pick and pass up on Smith.

Arrow · 10-02-2012, 12:25 PM

Wilson is so hard to figure out. Does he actually suck, or is it a lack of weapons? Same time, he's gone from one bankrupt coach to another. And John L. Smith is crap.

09-23-2012, 11:55 PM
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09-26-2012, 08:01 PM	#198
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10-02-2012, 12:03 PM	#206
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-630901	Well that didn't take long: http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php Geno #1 to the Browns. He has us taking the unbelievably over-hyped Tyler Wilson. Fortunately Wilson will be down to a 2nd round draft grade by draft time. Here's hoping Bray enters. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 66,710

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Arrow Starter Join Date: Sep 2011 Casino cash: $9995187	Wilson is so hard to figure out. Does he actually suck, or is it a lack of weapons? Same time, he's gone from one bankrupt coach to another. And John L. Smith is crap.
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