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Old 09-23-2012, 11:55 PM  
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Walterfootball.com has KC picking #8 overall
yeah, yeah... only week 3 and a lot of shit can change from now to draft date. this is the ONLY thing that will make me renew my season tix next year.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php



My only hope is that he has an off game or two... Lord knows Pioli won't trade up for him.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:30 PM   #151
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Smith is a pure pocket guy. He is athletic, but he doesn't seem to venture from the pocket very often. He has solid mechanics from said pocket and has a good quick release.


But, for my perspective, I've never seen a kid at that point have the pocket presence that he does.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:34 PM   #152
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Yeah, but I don't think they will be looking to draft one that high for that situation. It would be more of a Mallet situation.
Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers say hi.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:38 PM   #153
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:41 PM   #154
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Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers say hi.
He was drafted what, in the mid 20's.

I figure we will be in the mid to early teens, or even earlier. Most teams that are set at QB likely have a few other needs maybe to push them over the edge.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:43 PM   #155
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Wilson will be the 1st or 2nd qb to get drafted this year.
Honestly, I think the draft order of QBs will be Smith, Barkley, Wilson.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:43 PM   #156
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Smith is a pure pocket guy. He is athletic, but he doesn't seem to venture from the pocket very often. He has solid mechanics from said pocket and has a good quick release.


But, for my perspective, I've never seen a kid at that point have the pocket presence that he does.
Better than Luck?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:49 PM   #157
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If he's not better, he's pretty close.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:53 PM   #158
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If he's not better, he's pretty close.
What;s he missing then? I mean Luck was considered the best QB since Peyton, if not Elway and the media slobbed his knob all season. Where is that kind of publicity for Geno? He is getting some love, but nowhere near what Luck got. What did Luck have that Geno lacks?
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Lucks got the pedigree. He was pretty much groomed for what was to come.


Geno has developed over his time in college. He does have some flaws, but for the most part they seem to be fixable.
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What;s he missing then? I mean Luck was considered the best QB since Peyton, if not Elway and the media slobbed his knob all season. Where is that kind of publicity for Geno? He is getting some love, but nowhere near what Luck got. What did Luck have that Geno lacks?
IMO, Luck is/was better pre-snap. Had a better knowledge of offensive and defensive concepts. Is more intelligent IMO, based on his education at Stanford. Additionally, being brought up in a pro-style, West Coast offensive system helped him in his development and value by pro teams.

Geno's knocks will be from his o-system, and that he won't have two full years of being hyped as the best prospect.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:30 PM   #161
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Lucks got the pedigree. He was pretty much groomed for what was to come.


Geno has developed over his time in college. He does have some flaws, but for the most part they seem to be fixable.
He has flaws, he's no Andrew Luck.
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I've got Wilson alot higher than DJ. He does have a bit of a windup, but it seems like it's better this year than last.


The way he's shown to be a leader with all thats happened this year in Fayetville have made me a little higher on him.
I'm not totally sold on him as a leader. He threw the whole team under the bus while he was out. Even though I mostly agree with the things he said, he should have bitten his tongue and it's things like that that may be a sign of why the problems happen in the first place.

IMO that was a pretty significant red flag.
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IMO, Luck is/was better pre-snap. Had a better knowledge of offensive and defensive concepts. Is more intelligent IMO, based on his education at Stanford. Additionally, being brought up in a pro-style, West Coast offensive system helped him in his development and value by pro teams.

Geno's knocks will be from his o-system, and that he won't have two full years of being hyped as the best prospect.

Warming up to Barkley I see
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What;s he missing then? I mean Luck was considered the best QB since Peyton, if not Elway and the media slobbed his knob all season. Where is that kind of publicity for Geno? He is getting some love, but nowhere near what Luck got. What did Luck have that Geno lacks?
Luck had/has no weakness in his game.
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Chiefs draft around 12-15.

Smith goes 1
Barkley in top 5
Wilson in top 10

When asked why the Chiefs didn't attempt to go after a real QB, Pioli says, "You gotta remember that we still have a pretty good QB in Matt who made the Pro Bowl not too long ago and has led this team through some tough initial losses to begin the season."

2010 was probably the worst thing that could happen to this franchise (after the Cassel trade, of course)
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