Chiefs Our d-line is just disappointing. Time to start over again. - Page 15

Bump · 09-10-2012, 11:28 AM

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with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again.

Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle...

And also, who the **** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round?

Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ****ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks.

honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the ****ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-10-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

So why are you acting like Scott Pioli is the worst thing to happen to Kansas City since the game?

I've always felt he was the wrong guy. Granted, he's added a few nice pieces, so I'm not going to rail on him for every move, but he's certainly made more than a fair share of mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

This is a 6-10, 7-9 team.

I don't buy that, at all. They were 7-9 last year with Tyler ****ing Palko, the Homeless Nutbag as coach, no Charles, Berry or Moeaki, etc.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I gave them the benefit of the doubt Sunday and they surprised even me with their fail. They are WORSE than I thought.

That's how bad they are.

They fell apart, no doubt. They're not tough and lack veteran leadership from the top down. But this team has talent.

6-10 would be a cluster**** of disappointment.

Fishpicker · 09-10-2012, 11:31 PM

ughh, some people are so negative. let's hear your complaints once we're in the playoffs as a wild card.

**BossChief** · 09-10-2012, 11:31 PM

at this massive overreaction.

Seriously...this is going to epic proportions.

**BossChief** · 09-10-2012, 11:35 PM

Hali
Flowers
Lewis
DJ with a bum ankle
Belcher was playing with an injury
We started Andy Studebaker at ROLB
We started a corner that hadnt played since 2009

Even with all of that, we were neck and neck until the half with one of the better teams in football.

Once this team gets to full strength, its gonna go on a tear.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-10-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Once this team gets to full strength, its gonna go on a tear.

The problem is that very few teams in the NFL are ever at "full strength".

If Sunday's game proved anything, it's that Matt Cassel is still incapable of putting a team on his shoulders and winning a game.

NJChiefsFan · 09-10-2012, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The problem is that very few teams in the NFL are ever at "full strength".

If Sunday's game proved anything, it's that Matt Cassel is still incapable of putting a team on his shoulders and winning a game.

And thats the biggest thing Cassel supporters miss. Is that part of what a good QB does for your team is pick it up when it needs it. When the Chiefs fall apart or are not healthy we get the "well that's why its not Matt's fault." If Matt can't step up to help a team when it needs it, we aren't going to go where we need to go.

DBOSHO · 09-10-2012, 11:58 PM

Holy ****ing shit this place is reeruned.

Hammock Parties · 09-10-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Hali
Flowers
Lewis
DJ with a bum ankle
Belcher was playing with an injury
We started Andy Studebaker at ROLB
We started a corner that hadnt played since 2009

Even with all of that, we were neck and neck until the half with one of the better teams in football.

Once this team gets to full strength, its gonna go on a tear.

Can't wait to be 2-4 and hear more excuses.

That's best case scenario.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-11-2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Holy ****ing shit this place is reeruned.

Says the founding member of the reeruns

Hammock Parties · 09-11-2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't buy that, at all. They were 7-9 last year with Tyler ****ing Palko, the Homeless Nutbag as coach, no Charles, Berry or Moeaki, etc.

Yeah, and this year the schedule is a lot tougher.

Which is why we just got our asses kicked in the home opener WITH Berry, Charles and Moeaki.

They made all the difference.

DBOSHO · 09-11-2012, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Says the founding member of the reeruns

Youre rusty. You shouldve stuck around.

NJChiefsFan · 09-11-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Yeah, and this year the schedule is a lot tougher.

Which is why we just got our asses kicked in the home opener WITH Berry, Charles and Moeaki.

They made all the difference.

With Berry, Charles, and Moeaki

Without Lewis, Flowers, and Hali

Not saying we would have won, but you can't say well we got killed last year and this year we were healthy in the opener so look out.

**Rausch** · 09-11-2012, 12:02 AM

There is no reason to be down on the "team" after this game.

We hung in there for 3 quarters with 3 starters out on D vs. a very good offensive team.

The second half the defense allowed pts and the offense didn't score.

Ok.

Now WHY did the defense allow pts and why didn't the offense score?

Well, turnovers are why we didn't score.

And, well, turnovers are why we allowed more pts.

DBOSHO · 09-11-2012, 12:04 AM

Defense let the team down.

We were missing 3 key starters on defense.

Its really not more complex than that.

Hammock Parties · 09-11-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

With Berry, Charles, and Moeaki

Without Lewis, Flowers, and Hali

More excuses.

We had Berry, Charles, Moeaki, Lewis, Flowers and Hali ALL healthy in 2010 when we got our asses kicked by the Ravens.

This regime is fail against good teams at 50 percent strength, 75 percent strength and 110 percent strength.

FIRE. THEM. ALL.

09-10-2012, 11:28 AM
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $-1414895	Our d-line is just disappointing. Time to start over again. #5 overall #3 overall #11 overall with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again. Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle... And also, who the ** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round? Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks. honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the **ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course.
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Fishpicker On one quarter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: I play all day Casino cash: $657111	ughh, some people are so negative. let's hear your complaints once we're in the playoffs as a wild card. __________________ A person who has been [ideologically] demoralized cannot assess true information. the [demoralization] process is complete and irreversible. -Yuri Bezmenov on Soviet Subversion
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1525912	at this massive overreaction. Seriously...this is going to epic proportions.
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09-10-2012, 11:35 PM	#214
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1525912	Hali Flowers Lewis DJ with a bum ankle Belcher was playing with an injury We started Andy Studebaker at ROLB We started a corner that hadnt played since 2009 Even with all of that, we were neck and neck until the half with one of the better teams in football. Once this team gets to full strength, its gonna go on a tear.
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09-10-2012, 11:58 PM	#217
DBOSHO trap champ Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Holy ****ing shit this place is reeruned. __________________ Orginator of the group repost
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DBOSHO trap champ Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Defense let the team down. We were missing 3 key starters on defense. Its really not more complex than that. __________________ Orginator of the group repost
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