Chiefs Our d-line is just disappointing. Time to start over again. - Page 12

Bump · 09-10-2012, 11:28 AM

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with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again.

Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle...

And also, who the **** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round?

Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ****ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks.

honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the ****ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-10-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

I mean is it common place to know that DJ misses tackles and Vrabel taught Tamba as well as Studebaker?

What the **** fantasy world are you living in?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-10-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What the **** fantasy world are you living in?

Black Bob · 09-10-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Carr was real good but Routt is not much of a downgrade. Routt is in fact the best number 2 corner in the AFC West. As of now, Carr is probably the 15th best corner in this league and Routt around 30th. I've seen Matt Miller (maybe not the most credible but still...) rank Routt higher than Carr back in March, I've seen Raiders fans say Routt is an average number 1 corner or a very good number 2. Really, it's not like we went from Carr to Reeves.

We'll see.... People keep saying that but the truth is that Routt has been around for eight years and only had one good year. He has mostly played in the nickel and dime and on special teams. He was pretty good as the #2 in 2010 across from Asamough but that's about it. After the first year as the #2, he was benched because he stunk.

When he got his shot at being the #1 he led the league in pass intereference calls and was the most penalized player on the most penalized team.

The bottom line is that he played well yesterday and I'm happy about that. However, he's only had one good season out in his first seven years.

Carr should have been the number one in KC. Especially in 2010 and 2011. It was easy to see he was better than Flowers in coverage. I think he'll make the pro bowl this year in Dallas. He is shadowing WRs there for the entire game. He did a great job on Victor Cruz the othr night and there will be more to come.

Losing him was a huge mistake. In my opinion, there is no other young player ascending as much as he is right now. He has not plateaued and that's why he got a big contract. I think Flowers leveled off two years ago. I like Flowers but, I like Carr better. In the end, I think Jerry got a good deal.

Black Bob · 09-10-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What the **** fantasy world are you living in?

It's called reality man. You should try it sometime.

**The Franchise** · 09-10-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

It's called reality man. You should try it sometime.

**HemiEd** · 09-10-2012, 02:53 PM

Routt was one of the bright spots yesterday.

mcaj22 · 09-10-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

lol

L.A. Chieffan · 09-10-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

We'll see.... People keep saying that but the truth is that Routt has been around for eight years and only had one good year. He has mostly played in the nickel and dime and on special teams. He was pretty good as the #2 in 2010 across from Asamough but that's about it. After the first year as the #2, he was benched because he stunk.

When he got his shot at being the #1 he led the league in pass intereference calls and was the most penalized player on the most penalized team.

The bottom line is that he played well yesterday and I'm happy about that. However, he's only had one good season out in his first seven years.

Carr should have been the number one in KC. Especially in 2010 and 2011. It was easy to see he was better than Flowers in coverage. I think he'll make the pro bowl this year in Dallas. He is shadowing WRs there for the entire game. He did a great job on Victor Cruz the othr night and there will be more to come.

Losing him was a huge mistake. In my opinion, there is no other young player ascending as much as he is right now. He has not plateaued and that's why he got a big contract. I think Flowers leveled off two years ago. I like Flowers but, I like Carr better. In the end, I think Jerry got a good deal.

You just keep getting wronger and wronger. Please go away now. k thx bye

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-10-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Routt was one of the bright spots yesterday.

He'd damned well better be.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-10-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

We'll see.... People keep saying that but the truth is that Routt has been around for eight years and only had one good year. He has mostly played in the nickel and dime and on special teams. He was pretty good as the #2 in 2010 across from Asamough but that's about it. After the first year as the #2, he was benched because he stunk.

When he got his shot at being the #1 he led the league in pass intereference calls and was the most penalized player on the most penalized team.

The bottom line is that he played well yesterday and I'm happy about that. However, he's only had one good season out in his first seven years.

Carr should have been the number one in KC. Especially in 2010 and 2011. It was easy to see he was better than Flowers in coverage. I think he'll make the pro bowl this year in Dallas. He is shadowing WRs there for the entire game. He did a great job on Victor Cruz the othr night and there will be more to come.

Losing him was a huge mistake. In my opinion, there is no other young player ascending as much as he is right now. He has not plateaued and that's why he got a big contract. I think Flowers leveled off two years ago. I like Flowers but, I like Carr better. In the end, I think Jerry got a good deal.

JFC this guy.

Black Bob · 09-10-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

It's all right little fella.... Just ask me nicely and I'll post the story with a link... I'm about to leave work so try not to dilly dally. There's no reason to fret. Just buck up little camper and ask nicely or put it in your list.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-10-2012, 02:59 PM

Why does Black Bob have + rep? What has this ****ing place come to in my absence?

Black Bob · 09-10-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

You just keep getting wronger and wronger. Please go away now. k thx bye

http://www.nfl.com/player/stanfordroutt/2506377/profile

L.A. Chieffan · 09-10-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

http://www.nfl.com/player/stanfordroutt/2506377/profile

Do you drool on your keyboard?

**The Franchise** · 09-10-2012, 03:02 PM

That's showing us what exactly?

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Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $-1414895	Our d-line is just disappointing. Time to start over again. #5 overall #3 overall #11 overall with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again. Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle... And also, who the ** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round? Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks. honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the **ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course.
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