Chiefs Our d-line is just disappointing. Time to start over again. - Page 4

Bump · 09-10-2012, 11:28 AM

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with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again.

Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle...

And also, who the **** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round?

Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ****ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks.

honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the ****ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course.

Bump · 09-10-2012, 12:00 PM

it is true though, Matt Ryan was throwing very quick passes because his receivers were always open from the get go. Perhaps that didn't allow the d-line to really do much.

If Pioli isn't on the phone trying to find a CB he can sign or trade for, he needs to go.

L.A. Chieffan · 09-10-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Maybe we should have traded for Tebow to?

Oooh a Tebow deflection! Lets see where this one goes folks...

**The Franchise** · 09-10-2012, 12:01 PM

And this is honestly why we should have drafted Melvin Ingram instead of Poe.

The dude is versatile enough that while Hali was out....he could have stepped in and played OLB. When Hali was back....you could move him into Belcher's spot.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-10-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

back to Sanchez

after one of his good games, of course.

after a bad game, silence

Yeah, because leading his team to two straight AFC Championships was just dumb luck.

He still has more upside than Cassel will EVER have and he plays in the toughest media market in the world. He'd ****ing OWN Kansas City if he'd take them to one AFC Championship, let alone two.

L.A. Chieffan · 09-10-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

it is true though, Matt Ryan was throwing very quick passes because his receivers not being blanketed by Routt were always open from the get go. Perhaps that didn't allow the d-line to really do much.

If Pioli isn't on the phone trying to find a CB he can sign or trade for, he needs to go.

there ya go

**Saulbadguy** · 09-10-2012, 12:02 PM

yikes

htismaqe · 09-10-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Maybe we should have traded for Tebow to?

Yeah, because you can logically extrapolate that me suggesting we DRAFT OIR OWN QB = trading away draft picks for one.

Do you have to actually try to be this ****ing stupid?

saphojunkie · 09-10-2012, 12:02 PM

If this team fails this year, they need to get rid of Romeo and switch back to the 4-3.

Cut Jackson, keep Dorsey. Bailey and Hali starting at DE with Houston and DJ as your blitzing OLB.

Black Bob · 09-10-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You do realize that this has nothing to do with Sanchez other than the fact that he was the QB that was obviously available when we took Tyson Jackson, right?

Yep. That's exactly what it has to do with. He was the next QB on everyone's board.

Which is exactly what I was talking about earlier today in another thread when I said you better get someone who can find QBs. You don't just take QBs to take them in the top 10. I bet nowadays 32 out of 32 teams would have Flacco ahead of Sanchez.

htismaqe · 09-10-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Haha

Overreact much?

Considering I didn't want RAC in the first place?

No. Not overreacting at all.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-10-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

But Mecca would rather rape himself with a toilet brush than draft Brian Orakpo.

I felt the same way at the time because to that point, there weren't many Texas defensive players translating their skills to the NFL.

But, I'm not paid $5 million to make those decisions, so my opinion or Mecca's truly don't matter.

**The Franchise** · 09-10-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

If this team fails this year, they need to get rid of Romeo and switch back to the 4-3.

Cut Jackson, keep Dorsey. Bailey and Hali starting at DE with Houston and DJ as your blitzing OLB.

I wouldn't move away from the 3-4. I'd transition over to what the Texans and Cowboys run.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-10-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

I bet nowadays 32 out of 32 teams would have Flacco ahead of Sanchez.

They weren't even in the same draft, so why compare the two?

You're all kinds of stupid.

htismaqe · 09-10-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Yep. That's exactly what it has to do with. He was the next QB on everyone's board.

You can't even get a sentence out without contradicting yourself.

It doesn't have anything AT ALL to do with Sanchez, other than that his name was #2 on everybody's board.

If Flacco had been #2, we'd be talking about Flacco.

You're a moron.

Black Bob · 09-10-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yeah, because you can logically extrapolate that me suggesting we DRAFT OIR OWN QB = trading away draft picks for one.

Do you have to actually try to be this ****ing stupid?

The point is that Sanchez is so good that they traded for another great first round QB.

09-10-2012, 11:28 AM
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $-1414895	Our d-line is just disappointing. Time to start over again. #5 overall #3 overall #11 overall with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again. Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle... And also, who the ** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round? Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks. honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the **ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course.
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Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $-1414895	it is true though, Matt Ryan was throwing very quick passes because his receivers were always open from the get go. Perhaps that didn't allow the d-line to really do much. If Pioli isn't on the phone trying to find a CB he can sign or trade for, he needs to go.
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saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $2386550	If this team fails this year, they need to get rid of Romeo and switch back to the 4-3. Cut Jackson, keep Dorsey. Bailey and Hali starting at DE with Houston and DJ as your blitzing OLB.
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