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Old 08-04-2012, 07:44 PM  
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As deserving as Curtis Martin is, it's hard to watch him being inducted and not think how @Terrell_Davis should one day join him. Truth.
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:10 AM   #196
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In a scheme that made guys like Olandis Gary and Mike Anderson look awesome....
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:14 AM   #197
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Ummm....no. No way Charles would last getting 350+ carries a year like TD did.


Just stop.
Davis didn't "last" either. **** him, he doesn't and won't get in.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:28 AM   #198
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They didn't cheat the cap. They were creative with how they distributed their money. Bowlen had a new stadium to build and asked Elway and TD if he could give them an IOU. Nobody got payed more than what was listed on their books.
That's some revisionist history.

They defaulted on bonuses to highly paid players they otherwise could not have kept. Then they manipulated the books to deceive the NFL. That's cheating.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:30 AM   #199
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In a scheme that made guys like Olandis Gary and Mike Anderson look awesome....
Yeah... they never looked awesome. Solid? Yes. The only other back who really impressed in that system was Portis, and he wasn't as good as Davis. He also had a pretty solid career after he left Denver.

Nobody who played in that scheme ever dominated like Davis did. Crediting the scheme is stupid. Lots of Qb's succeed in the WCO as well... that doesn't minimize their impact.

The NFL has a lot to do with luck. Landing with the right team and the right system can make or break a career. Davis is the only player that fans seem to penalize in their mind because of the scheme.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:35 AM   #200
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If Terrell Davis were a Chief everyone on here would be kissing his ass. Dude was great for 3 seasons.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:50 AM   #201
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If Terrell Davis were a Chief everyone on here would be kissing his ass. Dude was great for 3 seasons.
There is no question that TD was a great back, and far better than any of the other scrubs mentioned when the impact of the Rat's scheme is discussed.


But at the end of the day, SBs are won by QBs.

Its true today, it was true when the Donkeys won, it was true in '66.

I don't give a rat's ass about this debate between Davis and Holmes, even though Holmes is probably my favorite offensive Chief ever, because QBs win SBs.

Davis was a shooting star.

Nothing more.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:54 AM   #202
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:58 AM   #203
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There is no question that TD was a great back, and far better than any of the other scrubs mentioned when the impact of the Rat's scheme is discussed.


But at the end of the day, SBs are won by QBs.

Its true today, it was true when the Donkeys won, it was true in '66.

I don't give a rat's ass about this debate between Davis and Holmes, even though Holmes is probably my favorite offensive Chief ever, because QBs win SBs.

Davis was a shooting star.

Nothing more.
Look at his playoff stats. Ran for 100+ yards in every playoff game those 2 years Denver won it all. 3 touchdowns against the Packers.

Does Elway get a ring without Davis?

And the most amazing thing is: They were able to win despite Greg Robinson.
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:00 AM   #204
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If Terrell Davis were a Chief everyone on here would be kissing his ass. Dude was great for 3 seasons.
Isn't that the point everyone's trying to make? HOF players need to not only be great, but last a while.
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:05 AM   #205
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Isn't that the point everyone's trying to make? HOF players need to not only be great, but last a while.


Sure but with Davis its a little different. He won 2 rings. Compare not only his regular season stats but his playoff stats to other hof running backs. The guy was great when it counted.
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:06 AM   #206
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That's some revisionist history.

They defaulted on bonuses to highly paid players they otherwise could not have kept. Then they manipulated the books to deceive the NFL. That's cheating.
Whatever. Denver gained zero competitive advantage by deferring payments to a later date. They were 13 point underdogs in SB32 and could have been underdogs in SB33 if the Vikings made it to the SB.
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Sure but with Davis its a little different. He won 2 rings. Compare not only his regular season stats but his playoff stats to other hof running backs. The guy was great when it counted.
There were a ton of other Bronco players who got two rings, so as far as I'm concerned, that's not even relevant. As someone mentioned in the other thread, Gonzo may make it in without even winning a playoff game.
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If he gets in, it will probably be because of his performance in big (read: playoff) games. In 8 playoff games, he had 143 ypg, 1.5 TDs per game, and got a SB MVP. He was a huge factor in his team winning 7 of those 8 games.

For those that wnat to compare TD and Priest in every way: In 4 playoff games, Priest had 55 ypg, 0.5 TDs per game and was a minimal factor in the 3 games he won.
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There were a ton of other Bronco players who got two rings, so as far as I'm concerned, that's not even relevant. As someone mentioned in the other thread, Gonzo may make it in without even winning a playoff game.

That's not the point. Can you really say without Davis Denver still wins those super bowls? Look at his playoff stats. He was great in big games.
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If he gets in, it will probably be because of his performance in big (read: playoff) games. In 8 playoff games, he had 143 ypg, 1.5 TDs per game, and got a SB MVP. He was a huge factor in his team winning 7 of those 8 games.

For those that wnat to compare TD and Priest in every way: In 4 playoff games, Priest had 55 ypg, 0.5 TDs per game and was a minimal factor in the 3 games he won.


This.
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