Royals 2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 389

**alnorth** · 10:54 PM

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:

Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

**DeezNutz** · 07-23-2012, 02:14 PM

Take all the pitching prospects in the country and shove them up DM's ass.

Nightfyre · 07-23-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Dude Ace pitchers don't get package's like this and you want this for Butler talk about a homer.

That's funny. I thought we were talking about trading 3.5 years of discount club control for one of the best hitters in the game.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-23-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Dude Ace pitchers don't get package's like this and you want this for Butler talk about a homer.

You're an idiot.

Butler- .296/19/58

Billy is an elite hitter.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-23-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

You're an idiot.

Butler- .296/19/58

Billy is an elite hitter.

Billy is a good player not elite and no team is giving you 3 top prospects for him sorry.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-23-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Billy is a good player not elite and no team is giving you 3 top prospects for him sorry.

I suppose the Os line up is stacked with elite players...

**DeezNutz** · 07-23-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Billy is a good player not elite and no team is giving you 3 top prospects for him sorry.

Doesn't matter. Trading an elite hitter, which Butler is, for prospects is absurd.

Nightfyre · 07-23-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Doesn't matter. Trading an elite hitter, which Butler is, for prospects is absurd.

Let alone one shitty prospect.

duncan_idaho · 07-23-2012, 02:44 PM

Man, here I am on both sides of the argument again...

1) Butler is not worth 3/4 of that group of prospects. I don't think. Not quite. Maybe if his whole career thus far had displayed the HR pop he has in 2012. MAYBE you get one of Tallon/Cole and one of Herredia/Marte. But not 3/4.

2) Butler is certainly making a case as an elite hitter this season. Guys that hit .300/30/100 with ..370 OBP and .500 SLG are at least right on the cusp of "elite." Butler's OPS currently ranks him No. 36 (ahead of Curtis Granderson, Adam Dunn, Albert Pujols, Mark Teixeira, Andre Ethier, and Jay Bruce, among others.

What's "elite?" Top 40? Top 25? Top 10?

**DeezNutz** · 07-23-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Man, here I am on both sides of the argument again...

1) Butler is not worth 3/4 of that group of prospects. I don't think. Not quite. Maybe if his whole career thus far had displayed the HR pop he has in 2012. MAYBE you get one of Tallon/Cole and one of Herredia/Marte. But not 3/4.

2) Butler is certainly making a case as an elite hitter this season. Guys that hit .300/30/100 with ..370 OBP and .500 SLG are at least right on the cusp of "elite." Butler's OPS currently ranks him No. 36 (ahead of Curtis Granderson, Adam Dunn, Albert Pujols, Mark Teixeira, Andre Ethier, and Jay Bruce, among others.

What's "elite?" Top 40? Top 25? Top 10?

Trading Butler means we're now playing for 2014. At some point, this sack of shit franchise has to play for the current year.

This type of move might force me to sell out.

duncan_idaho · 07-23-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Doesn't matter. Trading an elite hitter, which Butler is, for prospects is absurd.

Agree 100 percent.

I will flip my s*it if they trade Alex Gordon at this point.

They need to keep Gordon and Butler to keep the lineup from being a bunch of intimidated kids.

ChiefsCountry · 07-23-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Trading Butler means we're now playing for 2014. At some point, this sack of shit franchise has to play for the current year.

Unless you are trading Billy for a Cy Young ace type pitcher.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-23-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I suppose the Os line up is stacked with elite players...

Has nothing to do with O's just saying, Billy not getting you that deal.

**DeezNutz** · 07-23-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Unless you are trading Billy for a Cy Young ace type pitcher.

If Detroit wants to talk about Verlander or LA wants to talk about Kershaw, I'm listening.

duncan_idaho · 07-23-2012, 02:57 PM

Sounds like the dream is almost dead... Garza to the Dodgers is almost done.

#StubbornDayton

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-23-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If Detroit wants to talk about Verlander or LA wants to talk about Kershaw, I'm listening.

Do you really think you could get one of them for Billy only royal fans.

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1899692	Man, here I am on both sides of the argument again... 1) Butler is not worth 3/4 of that group of prospects. I don't think. Not quite. Maybe if his whole career thus far had displayed the HR pop he has in 2012. MAYBE you get one of Tallon/Cole and one of Herredia/Marte. But not 3/4. 2) Butler is certainly making a case as an elite hitter this season. Guys that hit .300/30/100 with ..370 OBP and .500 SLG are at least right on the cusp of "elite." Butler's OPS currently ranks him No. 36 (ahead of Curtis Granderson, Adam Dunn, Albert Pujols, Mark Teixeira, Andre Ethier, and Jay Bruce, among others. What's "elite?" Top 40? Top 25? Top 10? __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1899692	Sounds like the dream is almost dead... Garza to the Dodgers is almost done. #StubbornDayton __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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