2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by BillSelfsTrophycase

Elite everyday hitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elite once a week pitcher


Hell to the no

A deal for Butler would have to start with something like Marte, Taillon, and Cole/Heredia. That would be a Greinke-like haul.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

It would have to be a massive return. But those are three elite pitching prospects. I am an advocate of standing pat and PAYING two ace level starters so we can make a run next year. Sign Greinke and Hamels and we will be pennant contenders.

Everyday lineup through like 2017:
LF Gordon
RF Myers
1B Hosmer
DH Butler
3B Moose
C Perez
2B Getz/Gio platoon
CF Cain
SS Escobar

Rotation:
2013:
Greinke
Hamels
Hochevar
Odorizzi
Chen/Smith/Teaford/Mazzaro/Adcock

2014:
Greinke
Hamels
Odorizzi
Paulino
Duffy
(Trade any number of MLB ready pitchers here to supplement the next wave?)

There's no such thing.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

It would have to be a massive return. But those are three elite pitching prospects. I am an advocate of standing pat and PAYING two ace level starters so we can make a run next year. Sign Greinke and Hamels and we will be pennant contenders.

Everyday lineup through like 2017:
LF Gordon
RF Myers
1B Hosmer
DH Butler
3B Moose
C Perez
2B Getz/Gio platoon
CF Cain
SS Escobar

Rotation:
2013:
Greinke
Hamels
Hochevar
Odorizzi
Chen/Smith/Teaford/Mazzaro/Adcock

2014:
Greinke
Hamels
Odorizzi
Paulinoz
Duffy
(Trade any number of MLB ready pitchers here to supplement the next wave?)

Dude the royals won't spend 20m a year for greinke or hamels plus hamels is about to resign

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Dude the royals won't spend 20m a year for greinke or hamels plus hamels is about to resign

If they are serious about competing they will. They have supposedly been "saving" to sign one or two players to make a push. Time to pony up.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

If they are serious about competing they will. They have supposedly been "saving" to sign one or two players to make a push. Time to pony up.

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN

Hamels's upcoming decision fascinating. Does he stay with team he knows? Does he risk walking away from $130ish million, to test market?




He's got a 5y 130m deal on table, To get this guy in kc the deal would have to look like 5y 150m is that really a smart baseball move?

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN

Hamels's upcoming decision fascinating. Does he stay with team he knows? Does he risk walking away from $130ish million, to test market?




He's got a 5y 130m deal on table, To get this guy to come to kc the deal would have to look like 5y 150m is that really a smart baseball move?

Sure is. Two pitchers puts the Royals over the top. Hamels won't want to stay with a Phillies team that has already died of old age. He will want to compete.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Sure is. Two pitchers puts the Royals over the top. Hamels won't want to stay with a Phillies team that has already died of old age. He will want to compete.

Take the Phillies out Yankees or redsox would offer him that same deal. So i ask you again why would he want to come to KC?

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Take the Phillies out Yankees or redsox would offer them that same deal. So i ask you again why would he want to come to KC?

He has a house in Springfield, MO. Where his wife is from.

Note: I put the chances of the Royals signing Cole at about 1%.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Well.. the A's swept the Yankees. If you would have asked me before the season if the Royals were going to have a worse record than the A's I would have told you that you were out of your mind. However.... it is going to happen.

It seems the A's always find pitching. Prospects (even C grade like Millone), reclamation projects (McCarthy/Colon), etc. They're uncanny. And pitching wins baseball games, simple as that. Damn frustrating, no doubt about that.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

He has a house in Springfield, MO. Where his wife is from.

Note: I put the chances of the Royals signing Cole at about 1%.

That % is optimistic

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Take the Phillies out Yankees or redsox would offer him that same deal. So i ask you again why would he want to come to KC?

The Royals have a five year window to win. Who wouldn't want to step into that?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by KevB

It seems the A's always find pitching. Prospects (even C grade like Millone), reclamation projects (McCarthy/Colon), etc. They're uncanny. And pitching wins baseball games, simple as that. Damn frustrating, no doubt about that.

There's the difference. They get pitching. We have/had prospects.

I never want to see anyone lauding over a pitching prospect again.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

The Royals have a five year window to win. Who wouldn't want to step into that?

Royals enter 2012 with a payroll of 61m, and you wanna add 45m for just 2 players? Good luck with that.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

The Royals have a five year window to win. Who wouldn't want to step into that?

Money is going to have to do the convincing. A proven player isn't going to want to hear any bullshit about DM's confidence in Hosmer's ability to hit in the 3 hole because the player himself hasn't done shit.

We're going to have to do this Detroit style. Pay first, win later.

[Al Bundy]

The starting 5 going into next year are already here guys.