Royals 2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 100

**alnorth** · 10:54 PM

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:

Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

**Saul Good** · 03-18-2012, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Because he's a weak defender and an OBP nightmare. And if he's better than Gio or anyone else for that matter, it means we have complete shit at the position.

Betancourt is a poor player, his upside being replacement level.

Gio is a weak defender as well. I'll gladly take a backup, utility infielder who can hit 15-20 HRs.

We may well have complete shit at 2B. If he's slightly less shitty, it's worth having him on the team.

**Saul Good** · 03-18-2012, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If he's better, it means we're exponentially terrible at 2B. So I would actually like to improve the position. If a complete player isn't available, go glove first. Don't let familiarity and lack of attention to numbers allow us to repeat a mistake.

Glove first? WTF?

**DeezNutz** · 03-18-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Gio is a weak defender as well. I'll gladly take a backup, utility infielder who can hit 15-20 HRs.

We may well have complete shit at 2B. If he's slightly less shitty, it's worth having him on the team.

There's always a glove that we could acquire. I'd rather have this than 15 HRs, shit defense, and woeful OBP.

**Saul Good** · 03-18-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

There's always a glove that we could acquire. I'd rather have this than 15 HRs, shit defense, and woeful OBP.

When our backup infielder is a guy who led our team in HRs two years ago and started for a division winner last year, I can't find fault with that.

**DeezNutz** · 03-18-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

When our backup infielder is a guy who led our team in HRs two years ago and started for a division winner last year, I can't find fault with that.

When our "potential starting 2B" is a complete piece of shit, I have problems with that. And the fact that another team was dumb enough to start him is irrelevant.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...85&position=SS

The numbers don't lie. If DM wants to stash him on the bench (Why? Good question.), fine, but potentially starting is a whole new level of dumb.

CaliforniaChief · 03-18-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

When our "potential starting 2B" is a complete piece of shit, I have problems with that. And the fact that another team was dumb enough to start him is irrelevant.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...85&position=SS

The numbers don't lie. If DM wants to stash him on the bench (Why? Good question.), fine, but potentially starting is a whole new level of dumb.

Yuni starting, Salvy recovering, and Soria hurting?

We are not snakebitten. We are not snakebitten. We are not snakebitten.

Al Bundy · 03-18-2012, 10:30 PM

The 2012 season isn't shaping up so well.

**DeezNutz** · 03-18-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UCF Knight

The 2012 season isn't shaping up so well.

Pena is serviceable, and it's not like we haven't had one exceptionally shitty infielder before. Oh, hey, his name was Yuni, too. Huh. And our bullpen is still stacked.

Anyway, the starting staff will ultimately make or break this year.

Al Bundy · 03-18-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Pena is serviceable, and it's not like we haven't had one exceptionally shitty infielder before. Oh, hey, his name was Yuni, too. Huh. And our bullpen is still stacked.

Anyway, the starting staff will ultimately make or break this year.

We have multiple shitty starting infielders so I am used to it. I just don't like having Soria with arm issues and the young catcher be injured.

CaliforniaChief · 03-18-2012, 10:44 PM

If Soria isn't good to go, I'd like to see Holland get the shot to close with Broxton setting up. I just watched too many Dodgers games to trust Broxton.

**DeezNutz** · 03-18-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UCF Knight

We have multiple shitty starting infielders so I am used to it. I just don't like having Soria with arm issues and the young catcher be injured.

Multiple? Hosmer and Allseedeez are potential Gold Glover winners, and Moose isn't a butcher.

Hell, with a healthy Perez and a competent 2B, the Royals would have one of the best infields in the league.

Soria is done. Should have traded him a couple of years ago, as many advocated, but it's understandable to hang on to a player who was A.) inexpensive and B.) ****ing dominant for several years.

SnakeXJones · 03-18-2012, 10:48 PM

I am pretty sure Cain is going to be awesome this year

**DeezNutz** · 03-18-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones

I am pretty sure Cain is going to be awesome this year

If Cain and Myers end up being the goods, Starling could become one hell of a huge trade chip if we're in need of a single, proven piece to get over the hump in the next couple of seasons.

tk13 · 03-18-2012, 10:53 PM

If Starling becomes what he's supposed to become... you trade Cain and bring up Starling. An OF of Gordon/Starling/Myers would very likely be the best OF in baseball if they all lived up to their potential.

Al Bundy · 03-18-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Multiple? Hosmer and Allseedeez are potential Gold Glover winners, and Moose isn't a butcher.

Hell, with a healthy Perez and a competent 2B, the Royals would have one of the best infields in the league.

Soria is done. Should have traded him a couple of years ago, as many advocated, but it's understandable to hang on to a player who was A.) inexpensive and B.) ****ing dominant for several years.

Shit I meant to say "Have had". Not this year.... 2nd base looks like the only one that is questionable.

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