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Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

teedubya · 09-07-2011, 03:00 PM

From Texags board...

Fact: Beebe sends a letter saying no lawsuits.

Fact: OU President makes waves by saying OU is looking.

Implication: if OU leaves, Big 12 dissolves.

Then the small schools, who may not have a soft landing, start panicing (Baylor, K State, ISU).

OU motivates the smaller schools to take the heat by sticking their necks out and blocking the A&M move, but OU does not get the blame. Baylor does.

OU does the heavy lifting, takes the indirect blame, while UT is deemed innocent of any meddling. Very clever. Because if UT had threatened to leave causing the small schools to scurry, it would be easy to cry foul. With OU threatening, everyone buys it as legit.

All the while OU and UT, hand in hand, getting what they want.

Very clever indeed. Very clever.

Titty Meat · 09-07-2011, 03:01 PM

KK said the teams leaving aren't making more money

Pants · 09-07-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya

From Texags board...

Fact: Beebe sends a letter saying no lawsuits.

Fact: OU President makes waves by saying OU is looking.

Implication: if OU leaves, Big 12 dissolves.

Then the small schools, who may not have a soft landing, start panicing (Baylor, K State, ISU).

OU motivates the smaller schools to take the heat by sticking their necks out and blocking the A&M move, but OU does not get the blame. Baylor does.

OU does the heavy lifting, takes the indirect blame, while UT is deemed innocent of any meddling. Very clever. Because if UT had threatened to leave causing the small schools to scurry, it would be easy to cry foul. With OU threatening, everyone buys it as legit.

All the while OU and UT, hand in hand, getting what they want.

Very clever indeed. Very clever.

How is that clever? What exactly do OU and UT want?

Frazod · 09-07-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

How is that clever? What exactly do OU and UT want?

I assume they want things to stay exactly the way they are.

Pants · 09-07-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I assume they want things to stay exactly the way they are.

You're saying they're actually trying to force A&M to stay? Didn't someone quote an excerpt from Beebe's letter saying A&M won't be playing in the B12 next year even if they can't get in the SEC?

**Saul Good** · 09-07-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

You're saying they're actually trying to force A&M to stay?

I think OU wants them to leave so they can head to the PAC, but everyone would like to get some cash out of the aTm before the conference crumbles.

blaise · 09-07-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

KK said the teams leaving aren't making more money

He's a reerun. He's been crying about the Texas teams for years and now he's about to be without them. We'll see how he enjoys it.

Reerun_KC · 09-07-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I assume they want things to stay exactly the way they are.

Well I dont...

**** Texas... I dont care about the Big 12 anymore...

Pants · 09-07-2011, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I think OU wants them to leave so they can head to the PAC, but everyone would like to get some cash out of the aTm before the conference crumbles.

Well, if it's only KU, KSU, ISU and BU threatening to sue, it's obviously not everyone.

I guess we'll have to wait for the official report.

Imon Yourside · 09-07-2011, 03:13 PM

UPDATE, 3:55 PM: Baylor was among six Big 12 schools that will not sign a waiver to allow Texas A&M to go to the Southeastern Conference following a meeting of the Big 12 presidents Wednesday afternoon, a source close to Baylor told the Tribune-Herald.

The other schools were Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Iowa State and Missouri.

If Oklahoma reaffirms its commitment to the Big 12, the schools are expected to sign the waiver that would allow the Aggies to go to the SEC without any legal action. The Sooners, who are reportedly considering a move to the Pac-12, are expected to make their decision within the next two weeks.

— Tribune-Herald staff

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/breakin...l?abc=I0XA4pU5

**Saul Good** · 09-07-2011, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants

Well, if it's only KU, KSU, ISU and BU threatening to sue, it's obviously not everyone.

I guess we'll have to wait for the official report.

The schools with a legit exit strategy don't want their fingerprints on this. That said, it's likely that all of the conference members will get a share of the damages. Just because they aren't filing the suit doesn't mean that they won't jump on board if it looks like damages are going to be awarded.

**morphius** · 09-07-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Tom Shatel, continuing the grand tradition of Mizzou J-School grads that apparently hate Mizzou for some reason.

What I don't understand is that he says if a team take OU they are stuck with OSU, but never mentions that if you take KU you are stuck with KSU.

**Saul Good** · 09-07-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

UPDATE, 3:55 PM: Baylor was among six Big 12 schools that will not sign a waiver to allow Texas A&M to go to the Southeastern Conference following a meeting of the Big 12 presidents Wednesday afternoon, a source close to Baylor told the Tribune-Herald.

The other schools were Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Iowa State and Missouri.

If Oklahoma reaffirms its commitment to the Big 12, the schools are expected to sign the waiver that would allow the Aggies to go to the SEC without any legal action. The Sooners, who are reportedly considering a move to the Pac-12, are expected to make their decision within the next two weeks.

— Tribune-Herald staff

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/breakin...l?abc=I0XA4pU5

Tech surprises me. Aren't they a public institution? That would be like one arm of Texas suing the other.

**Saul Good** · 09-07-2011, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius

What I don't understand is that he says if a team take OU they are stuck with OSU, but never mentions that if you take KU you are stuck with KSU.

Maybe that's because the difference in value between OU and OSU is much greater than the value of KU vs KSU.

kstater · 09-07-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

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The other schools were Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Iowa State and Missouri.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/breakin...l?abc=I0XA4pU5

That effectively ends any MU to SEC discussions.

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teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9003042	From Texags board... Fact: Beebe sends a letter saying no lawsuits. Fact: OU President makes waves by saying OU is looking. Implication: if OU leaves, Big 12 dissolves. Then the small schools, who may not have a soft landing, start panicing (Baylor, K State, ISU). OU motivates the smaller schools to take the heat by sticking their necks out and blocking the A&M move, but OU does not get the blame. Baylor does. OU does the heavy lifting, takes the indirect blame, while UT is deemed innocent of any meddling. Very clever. Because if UT had threatened to leave causing the small schools to scurry, it would be easy to cry foul. With OU threatening, everyone buys it as legit. All the while OU and UT, hand in hand, getting what they want. Very clever indeed. Very clever.
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