Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment

[Mr. Laz]

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/05/sp...n-outlook.html



Also, along the non sports line of why the B1G probably won't expand is the issue of the CIC, Committee For Institutional Cooperation, comprised of B1G schools and the University of Chicago. They receive about 12% of the total Federal research funds awarded annually (18% of the National Science Foundation; and 15.7% of the USDA). That comes to approximately 6 BILLION dollars annually. If they expand, they have to split the pie more.

Sometimes, you just don't expand just to expand.

So you see, its not just "my dream world" we're talking about here. Now, the SEC might want you, but maybe they want Virginia Tech or UNC. Who knows? But, if you think everyone is going to start expanding just because the PAC does you might be in for a surprise.

If that invite indeed doesn't come, are you coming to the Big East with us?

HH....if you think that expansion isn't going to happen, then all of the information in the world anyone could put together wouldn't satisfy you. I see a lot of political rhetoric from people who want to say the right things right now, but if one domino falls then you can be damn sure the other conferences are going to be wallflowers either.

It's about money...and if you think for one second more revenue and a bigger piece of the bowl money won't drive even the academics to have second thoughts , please feel free.

[ArrowheadMagic]

See ya later pillowbitergots. nlm

[tk13]

I agree the Big East makes the most sense for KU given the circumstances. I certainly understand why Mizzou would consider the SEC. It'd be brutal for football but schools like Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and even the Mississippi schools aren't that far from Missouri. There are parts of Missouri that are probably the same distance to Ole Miss as Columbia. It wouldn't be a complete stretch geographically. Either way you're going to have long trips whether it's Florida or UConn.

I can't imagine the Big East would be interested in everyone: KU, KSU, Mizzou, Iowa St. and Baylor, would they? That would be a gigantic conference come basketball season. Might as well go for Houston or Memphis and cover half the country.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Originally Posted by tk13

I agree the Big East makes the most sense for KU given the circumstances. I certainly understand why Mizzou would consider the SEC. It'd be brutal for football but schools like Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and even the Mississippi schools aren't that far from Missouri. There are parts of Missouri that are probably the same distance to Ole Miss as Columbia. It wouldn't be a complete stretch geographically.

I can't imagine the Big East would be interested in everyone: KU, KSU, Mizzou, Iowa St. and Baylor, would they? That would be a gigantic conference come basketball season. Might as well go for Houston or Memphis and cover half the country.

Big East BBall brings in some money... March Madness is still a money maker.

[BWillie]

Ok ok ok. I've figured this all out. I really want to actually start calling Big East AD's and Big East front office execs introducing myself as Dan Bebee and Sheahon Zenger.

There are too many basketball only schools in the Big East to make due in the long run, they should know that. Just boot the dead weight, keep some of the basketball only schools that have prestige. Call it the Big Middle Eastern Conference if all I care, I don't give a shit. It'll go something like this.

FOOTBALL
WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati

If the 8 team craphole of the Big East gets an AQ/BCS invite as is, how the hell wouldn't they with that set up?

As far as basketball,

WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State
Marquette/G-Town/Villanova (pick 1)

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati
Notre Dame

Good bye to the rest...most definitely Depaul, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Providence. It is f****** stupid that those teams are in this conference to begin with. Nothing wrong with that conference at all, probably would be better than the ACC @ football almost every year.

Look at those markets right there. You get Texas, basically all of the midwest and some of the south, NY, FLA, ND nationally. I mean that should be a no brainer to ALL of those schools. Iowa State comes over because they already have an existing football program, the transition of starting one up at G-Town or Marquette etc would be to cumbersome. Villanova moves up to D1 football or you tell them to GTFO. That'll leave one spot open, hopefully for ND for football which I realize is a longshot. Tell them they can have their own network ala Texas, and that is as good as any conference in America.

[HolyHandgernade]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

HH....if you think that expansion isn't going to happen, then all of the information in the world anyone could put together wouldn't satisfy you. I see a lot of political rhetoric from people who want to say the right things right now, but if one domino falls then you can be damn sure the other conferences are going to be wallflowers either.

It's about money...and if you think for one second more revenue and a bigger piece of the bowl money won't drive even the academics to have second thoughts , please feel free.

Oh, I do believe there will be some realignments taking place, I'm just not so sure it will trigger the avalanche you think is a certainty.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Supposing that's true, what does Kansas bring to the table? The entire population of the state of Kansas is almost identical to the Saint Louis metro area. I don't see the PAC deciding to grab a school two time zones east when the school has no football team, and the state has no television sets.

Bwahahahahaha!

I love these kind of posts.

3 hall of famers and a BCS win.

Sure it's not a football school but to claim something like "has no football team" just shows tells us so much.

Good luck in your future my man.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Negreppedson

Bwahahahahaha!

I love these kind of posts.

3 hall of famers and a BCS win.

Sure it's not a football school but to claim something like "has no football team" just shows tells us so much.

Good luck in your future my man.

[Infidel Goat]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Ok ok ok. I've figured this all out. I really want to actually start calling Big East AD's and Big East front office execs introducing myself as Dan Bebee and Sheahon Zenger.

There are too many basketball only schools in the Big East to make due in the long run, they should know that. Just boot the dead weight, keep some of the basketball only schools that have prestige. Call it the Big Middle Eastern Conference if all I care, I don't give a shit. It'll go something like this.

FOOTBALL
WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati

If the 8 team craphole of the Big East gets an AQ/BCS invite as is, how the hell wouldn't they with that set up?

As far as basketball,

WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State
Marquette/G-Town/Villanova (pick 1)

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati
Notre Dame

Good bye to the rest...most definitely Depaul, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Providence. It is f****** stupid that those teams are in this conference to begin with. Nothing wrong with that conference at all, probably would be better than the ACC @ football almost every year.

Look at those markets right there. You get Texas, basically all of the midwest and some of the south, NY, FLA, ND nationally. I mean that should be a no brainer to ALL of those schools. Iowa State comes over because they already have an existing football program, the transition of starting one up at G-Town or Marquette etc would be to cumbersome. Villanova moves up to D1 football or you tell them to GTFO. That'll leave one spot open, hopefully for ND for football which I realize is a longshot. Tell them they can have their own network ala Texas, and that is as good as any conference in America.

Yeah, but how does it look after the Big 10 and the ACC are finished raiding it?!

[kcfan82]

You'd think landing the KC market would be of interest to alot of places. Who cares how many TV's you pick up if noone is watching your channel.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...in-forces.html

The best case for that solid place to include KU largely centers around you, because Kansas City’s outrageous passion for college sports could become a factor in a potential conference shakeup.

According to Navigate’s research, Kansas City ranks 12th of 77 markets in concentration of college football fans (46 percent) and seventh in college basketball (44 percent).

None of the places with more football passion are bigger markets than Kansas City, and only Raleigh-Durham is bigger among the markets with more basketball fans. We have a higher concentration of college football fans than Atlanta, and more college basketball passion than Charlotte.

In St. Louis, fewer than 30 percent define themselves as a fan of either college football or basketball. In the Pac-12’s major markets, it’s 27 percent for football and 18 percent for basketball. In the Big Ten, it’s 35 percent for football and 26 percent for basketball.

Perhaps most eye-opening is that in the SEC, long held up as the gold standard for football passion, only 41 percent define themselves as fans.

In that way, a Kansas-Missouri alliance could sell itself on being able to deliver one of the country’s best college sports markets, with the bonus of a heated and historic rivalry along with Mizzou’s presence in St. Louis.


Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...#ixzz1X5fwMEYV

[teedubya]

**** TEXAS.

[Sassy Squatch]

Would be nice if KU K-State, and Mizzou could go into one conference together.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by kcfan82

You'd think landing the KC market would be of interest to alot of places. Who cares how many TV's you pick up if noone is watching your channel.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...in-forces.html

The best case for that solid place to include KU largely centers around you, because Kansas City’s outrageous passion for college sports could become a factor in a potential conference shakeup.

According to Navigate’s research, Kansas City ranks 12th of 77 markets in concentration of college football fans (46 percent) and seventh in college basketball (44 percent).

None of the places with more football passion are bigger markets than Kansas City, and only Raleigh-Durham is bigger among the markets with more basketball fans. We have a higher concentration of college football fans than Atlanta, and more college basketball passion than Charlotte.

In St. Louis, fewer than 30 percent define themselves as a fan of either college football or basketball. In the Pac-12’s major markets, it’s 27 percent for football and 18 percent for basketball. In the Big Ten, it’s 35 percent for football and 26 percent for basketball.

Perhaps most eye-opening is that in the SEC, long held up as the gold standard for football passion, only 41 percent define themselves as fans.

In that way, a Kansas-Missouri alliance could sell itself on being able to deliver one of the country’s best college sports markets, with the bonus of a heated and historic rivalry along with Mizzou’s presence in St. Louis.


Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...#ixzz1X5fwMEYV

Which is why these schools should start being proactive to the BIG 10. Instead of waithing to see what OU does... beat them to the friggin' punch.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Would be nice if KU K-State, and Mizzou could go into one conference together.

Yes!!! And the Big 10 makes perfect geographical sense... not the fuggin' Big East or Pac 10.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by Negreppedson

Bwahahahahaha!

I love these kind of posts.

3 hall of famers and a BCS win.

Sure it's not a football school but to claim something like "has no football team" just shows tells us so much.

Good luck in your future my man.

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