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Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

HolyHandgernade · 09-04-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

So, why didn't Texas jump to the PAC last year? They make more money not being part of that conference.

No, actually, they don't. The reason they didn't do it last year was because they didn't have the regional network idea in place or finalized. If Texas gets 20 million from the Big XII deal and 7 million a year from the LHN that's not close to the 30-40 million they could potentially be getting.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ich_quick.html

Stewie · 09-04-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Supposing that's true, what does Kansas bring to the table? The entire population of the state of Kansas is almost identical to the Saint Louis metro area. I don't see the PAC deciding to grab a school two time zones east when the school has no football team, and the state has no television sets.

A national name brand in basketball. The Financial Times sports writer said last year that the value of top tier basketball programs trump a typical BCS college football program. He was amazed that this fact was being ignored in reporting.

HolyHandgernade · 09-04-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Supposing that's true, what does Kansas bring to the table? The entire population of the state of Kansas is almost identical to the Saint Louis metro area. I don't see the PAC deciding to grab a school two time zones east when the school has no football team, and the state has no television sets.

Kansas' only problem was that they weren't located in Texas. We're not competing against Texas and OU. We're competing against OSU and Tech. What do those two schools bring that OU and Texas doesn't already deliver for someone? Kansas could give them a better national name, a superior basketball presence, and the Wichita-Topeka-half of KC market. Its not even really close, especially when it comes to Tech. But Tech is in Texas.

This is why I kept saying MU and KU should have been lobbying for inclusion. These deals are bigger than anything else in college sports. People making stupid comments like "Oh, the travel costs!" Really? At the 30-40 million a year, you couldn't make the travel work? People are brain dead around here at times.

Stewie · 09-04-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

No, actually, they don't. The reason they didn't do it last year was because they didn't have the regional network idea in place or finalized. If Texas gets 20 million from the Big XII deal and 7 million a year from the LHN that's not close to the 30-40 million they could potentially be getting.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ich_quick.html

Texas doesn't want to be part of regional networks. They just got a multi-million dollar deal from ESPN that is exclusively their network. The PAC will not allow anything but a regional network AKA NO single school shall have their own network.

**Saul Good** · 09-04-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Texas doesn't want to be part of regional networks. They just got a multi-million dollar deal from ESPN that is exclusively their network. The PAC will not allow anything but a regional network AKA NO single school shall have their own network.

LHN is on life support. It's as likely to have the plug pulled as not.

**Saul Good** · 09-04-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

We're not competing against Texas and OU. We're competing against OSU and Tech.

Says who?

Stewie · 09-04-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

LHN is on life support. It's as likely to have the plug pulled as not.

Says who? Is the University of Texas going to quit playing sports? The whole purpose of the network is to promote and show UT sports. Everyone else be damned.

**Saul Good** · 09-04-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Says who? Is the University of Texas going to quit playing sports? The whole purpose of the network is to promote and show UT sports. Everyone else be damned.

And how many homes get LHN?

**Bowser** · 09-04-2011, 01:01 PM

Has the Big XII had any kind of statementsince Pinkel blasted Beebe, or now that Oklahoma is threatening to take OSU and possibly bail?

Pinkel was right - there isn't a single other conference out there dealing with the ineptitude the remaining Big XII schools are....

Stewie · 09-04-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

And how many homes get LHN?

It's a fledgling network. You don't think UT fans won't clamor to have that added to their cable/satellite system? Verizon is the lone carrier, but either they get a shitload of new subscribers or others step up to the plate.

Stewie · 09-04-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Has the Big XII had any kind of statementsince Pinkel blasted Beebe, or now that Oklahoma is threatening to take OSU and possibly bail?

Pinkel was right - there isn't a single other conference out there dealing with the ineptitude the remaining Big XII schools are....

Not that I've heard. Beebe is all about Texas. They'll try to browbeat some conference into something that favors Texas. It's how they operate.

KChiefs1 · 09-04-2011, 01:08 PM

Just saw this poll on PowerMizzou.com

POLL: Big 10 or SEC

Reply

Which conference do you want MU to end up in?
Results (total votes = 257):

SEC	134 / 52.14%

Big 10	123 / 47.86%

I've seen this question asked with several options but I was wondering which one of our top 2 choices would you like to see MIZZOU join and why?

**Bowser** · 09-04-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Not that I've heard. Beebe is all about Texas. They'll try to browbeat some conference into something that favors Texas. It's how they operate.

That's ****ed up. I have no idea how these things work, but can the schools get together and have a vote of no confidence in Beebe and get him out of a position of power in the Big XII? It's obvious he's rotting the conference away from the inside.

And when I said remaining Big XII schools, I meant everyone but Texas, obviously.

Stewie · 09-04-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Just saw this poll on PowerMizzou.com

POLL: Big 10 or SEC

Reply

Which conference do you want MU to end up in?
Results (total votes = 257):

SEC	134 / 52.14%

Big 10	123 / 47.86%

I've seen this question asked with several options but I was wondering which one of our top 2 choices would you like to see MIZZOU join and why?

That's really surprising. I think the Big 10 is the superior option.

**Bowser** · 09-04-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Just saw this poll on PowerMizzou.com

POLL: Big 10 or SEC

Reply

Which conference do you want MU to end up in?
Results (total votes = 257):

SEC	134 / 52.14%

Big 10	123 / 47.86%

I've seen this question asked with several options but I was wondering which one of our top 2 choices would you like to see MIZZOU join and why?

Mizzou would get pushed around in the SEC.....

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska. Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is. He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports. "We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about." The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on. The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement. http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html Last edited by Mr. Laz; 06-10-2010 at 02:57 PM..
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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-18384	Has the Big XII had any kind of statementsince Pinkel blasted Beebe, or now that Oklahoma is threatening to take OSU and possibly bail? Pinkel was right - there isn't a single other conference out there dealing with the ineptitude the remaining Big XII schools are....
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