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Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

BWillie · 09-03-2011, 08:57 PM

Why is no one talking about the idea of Texas going independent? They have their own network now. Buy did it, why not Texas .....they don't care about anyone except themselves anyway

Imon Yourside · 09-03-2011, 08:59 PM

OSU's Boone Pickens chides Texas, predicts Big 12's demise

While Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds professed his love for the Big 12, Oklahoma State billionaire booster Boone Pickens says the league won't last much longer.

Pickens believes the Cowboys will end up in the Pac-12, with Oklahoma. He largely blames Texas' insistence on creating the Longhorn Network.

"The network could have been the straw that broke the camel's back," Pickens said.

Dodds "is a friend of mine," Pickens said. "But DeLoss had too many cards and he played every damn one of them. I think that's too bad. You get tired of saying ‘aaah' while you get something shoved down your throat."

Dodds says Texas will be watching to see what happens over the next few days if Oklahoma decides to leave the Big 12.

Texas A&M has announced its plans to leave the Big 12. Oklahoma President David Boren on Friday acknowledged multiple conferences have shown interest in the Sooners. He said OU is likely to decide within three weeks whether it is staying or going.

Dodds says Texas will be fine no matter what happens to the Big 12.

Pickens doesn't want OSU to make a hasty decision.

"Don't rush the monkey and you'll see a better show," Pickens said. "We don't have to decide this weekend.

"This conversation is going to come up every year as long as the conference is not equal. You've got to have an equal deal like the SEC."

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said he is willing to listen if Oklahoma or anyone else wants to join his conference.

Scott said that "schools have reached out to us."

He said that the courtship is different from last year, when the league was looking for expansion candidates. "Any suggestion whatsoever that our conference is being predatory, that's just wrong," Scott said.

Pickens said TCU is the logical choice if the Big 12 wants to add a 10th team following Texas A&M's departure. He says Notre Dame and BYU wouldn't be good fits for the conference.

"Notre Dame already has a network and they're damaged merchandise, as far as I'm concerned," Pickens said. "I don't want Notre Dame. And BYU? Who in the hell knows where Provo, Utah, is? The natural one is TCU.

"You can fix the Big 12 now, but it's got to go to an equal deal, and it's not equal."

Missouri athletic director Mike Alden did not go as far as OU's Boren, but hinted Missouri might be ready to leave.

"I'm saying we're being aggressive on the things we need to be aggressive on," Alden said. "We're working on improving Mizzou's brand every day. That's what we do."

Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said Friday, "You don't hear anything about any other league in the country having these kinds of problems. We all know where it starts."

http://www.statesman.com/sports/coll...s-1818353.html

WilliamTheIrish · 09-03-2011, 08:59 PM

The BE is great! For CBBall. I cringe at not having that solid footing that big name college football provides. Especially for have nots like my team.

I mean I'd love to go to MSG for the BE ball tourney. Without anchors like OU, UT and to a lesser degree Nubb, it's going to be difficult to maintain a BCS program. (IMO)

Imon Yourside · 09-03-2011, 08:59 PM

OSU's Boone Pickens chides Texas, predicts Big 12's demise

While Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds professed his love for the Big 12, Oklahoma State billionaire booster Boone Pickens says the league won't last much longer.

Pickens believes the Cowboys will end up in the Pac-12, with Oklahoma. He largely blames Texas' insistence on creating the Longhorn Network.

"The network could have been the straw that broke the camel's back," Pickens said.

Dodds "is a friend of mine," Pickens said. "But DeLoss had too many cards and he played every damn one of them. I think that's too bad. You get tired of saying ‘aaah' while you get something shoved down your throat."

Dodds says Texas will be watching to see what happens over the next few days if Oklahoma decides to leave the Big 12.

Texas A&M has announced its plans to leave the Big 12. Oklahoma President David Boren on Friday acknowledged multiple conferences have shown interest in the Sooners. He said OU is likely to decide within three weeks whether it is staying or going.

Dodds says Texas will be fine no matter what happens to the Big 12.

Pickens doesn't want OSU to make a hasty decision.

"Don't rush the monkey and you'll see a better show," Pickens said. "We don't have to decide this weekend.

"This conversation is going to come up every year as long as the conference is not equal. You've got to have an equal deal like the SEC."

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said he is willing to listen if Oklahoma or anyone else wants to join his conference.

Scott said that "schools have reached out to us."

He said that the courtship is different from last year, when the league was looking for expansion candidates. "Any suggestion whatsoever that our conference is being predatory, that's just wrong," Scott said.

Pickens said TCU is the logical choice if the Big 12 wants to add a 10th team following Texas A&M's departure. He says Notre Dame and BYU wouldn't be good fits for the conference.

"Notre Dame already has a network and they're damaged merchandise, as far as I'm concerned," Pickens said. "I don't want Notre Dame. And BYU? Who in the hell knows where Provo, Utah, is? The natural one is TCU.

"You can fix the Big 12 now, but it's got to go to an equal deal, and it's not equal."

Missouri athletic director Mike Alden did not go as far as OU's Boren, but hinted Missouri might be ready to leave.

"I'm saying we're being aggressive on the things we need to be aggressive on," Alden said. "We're working on improving Mizzou's brand every day. That's what we do."

Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said Friday, "You don't hear anything about any other league in the country having these kinds of problems. We all know where it starts."

http://www.statesman.com/sports/coll...s-1818353.html

WilliamTheIrish · 09-03-2011, 08:59 PM

The BE is great! For CBBall. I cringe at not having that solid footing that big name college football provides. Especially for have nots like my team.

I mean I'd love to go to MSG for the BE ball tourney. Without anchors like OU, UT and to a lesser degree Nubb, it's going to be difficult to maintain a BCS program. (IMO)

chiefsfan987 · 09-03-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Welp, KU is fukced.

yup. I just saw the clip from Zenger on kusports.com and its clear that he's blindsided from whats going on in OU.

|Zach| · 09-03-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Why is no one talking about the idea of Texas going independent? They have their own network now. Buy did it, why not Texas .....they don't care about anyone except themselves anyway

Well it is interesting. My take on Texas before the Aggie exit was that after keeping the B12 together they were going to use these next few years with the 10 team Big 12 to get LHN off the ground and gain steam. When it was going full force they were gonna go independent.

I wonder how much the problems with the LHN and the craziness of not doing things on their schedule (which doesnt happen alot to Texas) has changed their desire to want to pull the trigger on going Indie.

Reerun_KC · 09-03-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

yup. I just saw the clip from Zenger on kusports.com and its clear that he's blindsided from whats going on in OU.

Those idiots are going to sit around and hope someone drags them along. When they should be out sucking the dick of any BCS conference that will take them...

Otherwise its hello midwest plains FBS/FCS or DII conference...

Imon Yourside · 09-03-2011, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Those idiots are going to sit around and hope someone drags them along. When they should be out sucking the dick of any BCS conference that will take them...

Otherwise its hello midwest plains FBS/FCS or DII conference...

ACC here we come.

Reerun_KC · 09-03-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

ACC here we come.

more like sunbelt conference her we come...

|Zach| · 09-03-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Well it is interesting. My take on Texas before the Aggie exit was that after keeping the B12 together they were going to use these next few years with the 10 team Big 12 to get LHN off the ground and gain steam. When it was going full force they were gonna go independent.

I wonder how much the problems with the LHN and the craziness of not doing things on their schedule (which doesnt happen alot to Texas) has changed their desire to want to pull the trigger on going Indie.

Another thought crossed my mind. Maybe Texas is thinking that right now in time being independent would be good for Texas. But what does the NCAA landscape look next year? 3 years from now? 5? 10?

I wonder if the unknown nature of all the huge changes happening around the country makes them think being aligned with a big time conference is simply the smart move.

Braincase · 09-03-2011, 09:13 PM

PAC has an interesting policy amongst the schools - they all have veto power, and joining the conference must be unanimous. My best guess is that the PAC would be inclined towards OU and KU. Last thing they want to due is invite the 800 pound gorilla into the room and give Texas the authority to veto everything the west coast teams want to do to advance their conference. Texas would do to the PAC exactly what they've done to the Big 12 and the SWC. They're a freakin' cancer... with big fake hair and fake tits.

tk13 · 09-03-2011, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincase

PAC has an interesting policy amongst the schools - they all have veto power, and joining the conference must be unanimous. My best guess is that the PAC would be inclined towards OU and KU. Last thing they want to due is invite the 800 pound gorilla into the room and give Texas the authority to veto everything the west coast teams want to do to advance their conference. Texas would do to the PAC exactly what they've done to the Big 12 and the SWC. They're a freakin' cancer... with big fake hair and fake tits.

Your argument makes sense... but this is all about $$. And Texas football is where the money is... not KU football. And worst case scenario for the Pac 12/14/16/29, at least they get OU and OSU football and say screw the rest of them.

|Zach| · 09-03-2011, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

Your argument makes sense... but this is all about $$. And Texas football is where the money is... not KU football. And worst case scenario for the Pac 12/14/16/29, at least they get OU and OSU football and say screw the rest of them.

I didn't know about the veto structure Braincase talked about. I wouldn't be surprised if there was mass expansion for a conference like the PAC to change the decision making structure. The bigger a conference is (aside from the idea of Texas being mad dickish) the less an easy type veto system makes sense.

HolyHandgernade · 09-03-2011, 09:47 PM

I'm actually thinking KU, MU and KSU go to the Big East. I know MU may have options, but I think they would prefer the Big East to the SEC for three reasons:

Preserves rivalries with KU and KSU
Easier path to conference championship
Mizzou prides itself on its academic reputation and the SEC doesn't help that

Those three pair with TCU, South Florida and Louisville and they get to keep the Texas recruiting lines they've established plus try and stake out Florida as well.

The conference would still be an AQ conference though obviously devoid of heavyweights. It won't warrant a contract on the level of the Big Three, but it should still be a sizable deal, especially since all that Big XII money will be freed up.

Plus, all three of those schools are basketball schools as well and a 20 team conference would surely offer Kansas City a part of a huge basketball tournament. You would have to hold initial rounds at two different sites with maybe a Final Four to New York?

KC would still be a vital college sports town.

What do you think Tiggers? Do you like that or do you think the Mizzou faithful would demand the SEC if it offers?

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska. Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is. He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports. "We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about." The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on. The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement. http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html Last edited by Mr. Laz; 06-10-2010 at 02:57 PM..
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Imon Yourside WhatUneed2Hear Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: AllSoulsMatter Casino cash: $-806819	OSU's Boone Pickens chides Texas, predicts Big 12's demise While Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds professed his love for the Big 12, Oklahoma State billionaire booster Boone Pickens says the league won't last much longer. Pickens believes the Cowboys will end up in the Pac-12, with Oklahoma. He largely blames Texas' insistence on creating the Longhorn Network. "The network could have been the straw that broke the camel's back," Pickens said. Dodds "is a friend of mine," Pickens said. "But DeLoss had too many cards and he played every damn one of them. I think that's too bad. You get tired of saying ‘aaah' while you get something shoved down your throat." Dodds says Texas will be watching to see what happens over the next few days if Oklahoma decides to leave the Big 12. Texas A&M has announced its plans to leave the Big 12. Oklahoma President David Boren on Friday acknowledged multiple conferences have shown interest in the Sooners. He said OU is likely to decide within three weeks whether it is staying or going. Dodds says Texas will be fine no matter what happens to the Big 12. Pickens doesn't want OSU to make a hasty decision. "Don't rush the monkey and you'll see a better show," Pickens said. "We don't have to decide this weekend. "This conversation is going to come up every year as long as the conference is not equal. You've got to have an equal deal like the SEC." Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said he is willing to listen if Oklahoma or anyone else wants to join his conference. Scott said that "schools have reached out to us." He said that the courtship is different from last year, when the league was looking for expansion candidates. "Any suggestion whatsoever that our conference is being predatory, that's just wrong," Scott said. Pickens said TCU is the logical choice if the Big 12 wants to add a 10th team following Texas A&M's departure. He says Notre Dame and BYU wouldn't be good fits for the conference. "Notre Dame already has a network and they're damaged merchandise, as far as I'm concerned," Pickens said. "I don't want Notre Dame. And BYU? Who in the hell knows where Provo, Utah, is? The natural one is TCU. "You can fix the Big 12 now, but it's got to go to an equal deal, and it's not equal." Missouri athletic director Mike Alden did not go as far as OU's Boren, but hinted Missouri might be ready to leave. "I'm saying we're being aggressive on the things we need to be aggressive on," Alden said. "We're working on improving Mizzou's brand every day. That's what we do." Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said Friday, "You don't hear anything about any other league in the country having these kinds of problems. We all know where it starts." http://www.statesman.com/sports/coll...s-1818353.html __________________ "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" Peter 5:8 "Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay" Isaiah 29:16 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Revelation 3:20
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Imon Yourside WhatUneed2Hear Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: AllSoulsMatter Casino cash: $-806819	OSU's Boone Pickens chides Texas, predicts Big 12's demise While Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds professed his love for the Big 12, Oklahoma State billionaire booster Boone Pickens says the league won't last much longer. Pickens believes the Cowboys will end up in the Pac-12, with Oklahoma. He largely blames Texas' insistence on creating the Longhorn Network. "The network could have been the straw that broke the camel's back," Pickens said. Dodds "is a friend of mine," Pickens said. "But DeLoss had too many cards and he played every damn one of them. I think that's too bad. You get tired of saying ‘aaah' while you get something shoved down your throat." Dodds says Texas will be watching to see what happens over the next few days if Oklahoma decides to leave the Big 12. Texas A&M has announced its plans to leave the Big 12. Oklahoma President David Boren on Friday acknowledged multiple conferences have shown interest in the Sooners. He said OU is likely to decide within three weeks whether it is staying or going. Dodds says Texas will be fine no matter what happens to the Big 12. Pickens doesn't want OSU to make a hasty decision. "Don't rush the monkey and you'll see a better show," Pickens said. "We don't have to decide this weekend. "This conversation is going to come up every year as long as the conference is not equal. You've got to have an equal deal like the SEC." Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said he is willing to listen if Oklahoma or anyone else wants to join his conference. Scott said that "schools have reached out to us." He said that the courtship is different from last year, when the league was looking for expansion candidates. "Any suggestion whatsoever that our conference is being predatory, that's just wrong," Scott said. Pickens said TCU is the logical choice if the Big 12 wants to add a 10th team following Texas A&M's departure. He says Notre Dame and BYU wouldn't be good fits for the conference. "Notre Dame already has a network and they're damaged merchandise, as far as I'm concerned," Pickens said. "I don't want Notre Dame. And BYU? Who in the hell knows where Provo, Utah, is? The natural one is TCU. "You can fix the Big 12 now, but it's got to go to an equal deal, and it's not equal." Missouri athletic director Mike Alden did not go as far as OU's Boren, but hinted Missouri might be ready to leave. "I'm saying we're being aggressive on the things we need to be aggressive on," Alden said. "We're working on improving Mizzou's brand every day. That's what we do." Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said Friday, "You don't hear anything about any other league in the country having these kinds of problems. We all know where it starts." http://www.statesman.com/sports/coll...s-1818353.html __________________ "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" Peter 5:8 "Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay" Isaiah 29:16 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Revelation 3:20
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Braincase Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pond> Me <Barn Casino cash: $11298284	PAC has an interesting policy amongst the schools - they all have veto power, and joining the conference must be unanimous. My best guess is that the PAC would be inclined towards OU and KU. Last thing they want to due is invite the 800 pound gorilla into the room and give Texas the authority to veto everything the west coast teams want to do to advance their conference. Texas would do to the PAC exactly what they've done to the Big 12 and the SWC. They're a freakin' cancer... with big fake hair and fake tits. __________________ BrainCase
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HolyHandgernade Integralist Join Date: May 2001 Location: Murrieta, CA Casino cash: $10006370	I'm actually thinking KU, MU and KSU go to the Big East. I know MU may have options, but I think they would prefer the Big East to the SEC for three reasons: Preserves rivalries with KU and KSU Easier path to conference championship Mizzou prides itself on its academic reputation and the SEC doesn't help that Those three pair with TCU, South Florida and Louisville and they get to keep the Texas recruiting lines they've established plus try and stake out Florida as well. The conference would still be an AQ conference though obviously devoid of heavyweights. It won't warrant a contract on the level of the Big Three, but it should still be a sizable deal, especially since all that Big XII money will be freed up. Plus, all three of those schools are basketball schools as well and a 20 team conference would surely offer Kansas City a part of a huge basketball tournament. You would have to hold initial rounds at two different sites with maybe a Final Four to New York? KC would still be a vital college sports town. What do you think Tiggers? Do you like that or do you think the Mizzou faithful would demand the SEC if it offers? __________________ You'll see it's all a show, keep 'em laughing as you go, just remember, the last laugh is on you, and always look on the bright side of life!
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