Chiefs Settling the blame game. - Page 3

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2010, 03:40 PM

Who do you blame most for the loss?

1. Cassel for general non-franchise-QB-****ery.

2. Weis for calling a pass play on 3rd-and-2.

3. Defense for shitting the bed.

3. Refs.

I pick #1 because

A) We lack elite pass rush talent on defense. Shitting the bed against great offenses is gonna happen, especially on the road.

B) I like aggressive, outside-the-box calls.

C) I never blame the refs. It's chickenshit.

Poll forthcoming, as soon as I yank it out of Brandon Flowers' ass.

crazycoffey · 10-17-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The whole team fell apart in the fourth quarter. You can't kick field goals against a team like Houston; you need TDs, and you need them every time you're in the red zone. You can't give a team like the Texans a short field repeatedly following kickoffs, either. You can't give a team with a QB like Schaub and a receiver like Johnson unlimited time to pick your secondary apart. And if you get the ball with 3:30 to go, with the lead, on a day where you have over 400 yards of offense, you damn well ought to be able to run the ****ing clock out. That was just inexcusable. I don't care who makes the play, the QB (who missed the open receiver), or one of the runningbacks who's been prison-raping their defense all afternoon, SOMEBODY has to make a goddamn play. And the same goes for the defense at the end. Sack the QB, force a fumble, intercept a pass. DO SOMETHING.

Everybody was to blame. Coaches and players in all three phases.

In all seriousness, this is a very good take on the blame game.

I was yelling at the TV (in the 3rd quarter I think), when we ran the ball down Houston's throats some 60-70 yards have 1st and goal and throw 3 passes. I couldn't ****ing believe it.

I still hate cassel now though....

Rasputin · 10-17-2010, 04:03 PM

I was holding my heart throughout this game like Red Fox. Geeze I want to blame the refs for that BS call but too many bad plays on defense side to let one play break us. Cassel wtf, best game so far as a Chief but he still has a ways to go.

Ya know what Jamaal and Jones played outstanding they were fighting for every yard they deserve a game ball if we would have won. D Bowe played his best game this year too. I just say our defense let us down and leave it at that.

**Lzen** · 10-17-2010, 04:04 PM

There should be an option for all of the above. I believe that all were equal parts in this loss.

Extra Point · 10-17-2010, 04:04 PM

Can't change my vote from 4 to a 2. #2 was the turd on the menu.

Weis did a great job. Just picked the wrong play. A RG-C left-RG pull right-trap off Waters' left hip would have done the trick, with Jones carrying the ball, even if they had to go for it on 4th down. PRN, all the rest of the game.

Jones transitioned from disbelief to disgruntlement when the camera got him.

The interference call was pathetic, but that's how it goes. Flowers did a great job, and showed a lot of heart. The defense did as good a job as I could expect.

**Dartgod** · 10-17-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

There should be an option for all of the above. I believe that all were equal parts in this loss.

Maybe not equal, but 50% defense, 20% Weis, 20 Cassel (last 2 posessions) and 10% refs.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Anyone who blames Cassel for this loss is and idiot.

Why? We needed him to make a play and failed. Sure, the D shit the bed. But, in a game like this, he's got to make a play to seal the game there. He failed. Everyone failed today.

Fish · 10-17-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The whole team fell apart in the fourth quarter. You can't kick field goals against a team like Houston; you need TDs, and you need them every time you're in the red zone. You can't give a team like the Texans a short field repeatedly following kickoffs, either. You can't give a team with a QB like Schaub and a receiver like Johnson unlimited time to pick your secondary apart. And if you get the ball with 3:30 to go, with the lead, on a day where you have over 400 yards of offense, you damn well ought to be able to run the ****ing clock out. That was just inexcusable. I don't care who makes the play, the QB (who missed the open receiver), or one of the runningbacks who's been prison-raping their defense all afternoon, SOMEBODY has to make a goddamn play. And the same goes for the defense at the end. Sack the QB, force a fumble, intercept a pass. DO SOMETHING.

Everybody was to blame. Coaches and players in all three phases.

This. ****ing this.

**Ming the Merciless** · 10-17-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Why? We needed him to make a play and failed. Sure, the D shit the bed. But, in a game like this, he's got to make a play to seal the game there. He failed. Everyone failed today.

I dont agree. You dont go from having a big lead late in the game and scoring 30+ points, then give up TD's in the last 4 possessions and somehow blame the QB for one play.

The QB was not the problem today.

**Dartgod** · 10-17-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Why? We needed him to make a play and failed. Sure, the D shit the bed. But, in a game like this, he's got to make a play to seal the game there. He failed. Everyone failed today.

He made the plays we needed him to make to win the game. The defense gave up 4 consecutive TD drives to end the game.

Yeah, it would have been nice to have completed that 3rd down pass to seal the game, but one bad pass in no way makes him the goat. In fact, I'd blame the play call before I layed it on Cassel.

Chiefs Rool · 10-17-2010, 04:13 PM

It's gotta be the defense, but some coaching definitely played a big role in the loss. Most of all the 3rd and 2 call. The refs certainly screwed us a bit too, the bad spot on the 3rd down run, the flowers thing, a good amount of no-calls that we should have got. I don't watch enough of other teams to make a comparison if other teams get fucked by refs at the same rate that we do.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

He made the plays we needed him to make to win the game. The defense gave up 4 consecutive TD drives to end the game.

Yeah, it would have been nice to have completed that 3rd down pass to seal the game, but one bad pass in no way makes him the goat. In fact, I'd blame the play call before I layed it on Cassel.

They all failed. He did play well, though. He's not the answer. A good QB would have executed.

Reerun_KC · 10-17-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I dont agree. You dont go from having a big lead late in the game and scoring 30+ points, then give up TD's in the last 4 possessions and somehow blame the QB for one play.

The QB was not the problem today.

I take you you're still very new here? I dont think you fully understand the culture of CP just yet...

Reerun_KC · 10-17-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

They all failed. He did play well, though. He's not the answer. A good QB would have executed.

I think you can insert just about any position into this and have the same meaning after todays game.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I think you can insert just about any position into this and have the same meaning after todays game.

Probably. However, the QB is the most important position on the field.

**Dartgod** · 10-17-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

They all failed. He did play well, though. He's not the answer. A good QB would have executed.

I'm no fan of Cassel, but the defense deserves the biggest share of the blame for today. Cassel played his best game this season. If the defense makes ONE STOP on the Texan's last four possessions, we win. End of story.

I think peoples hatred of Cassel is clouding their judgment for the most part.

View Poll Results: Who do you blame most?
Cassel for general non-franchise-QB-****ery.	16	12.03%
Weis for calling a pass play on 3rd-and-2.	21	15.79%
Defense for shitting the bed.	80	60.15%
Refs.	16	12.03%
Voters: 133. You may not vote on this poll

10-17-2010, 03:40 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1520478	Settling the blame game. Who do you blame most for the loss? 1. Cassel for general non-franchise-QB-**ery. 2. Weis for calling a pass play on 3rd-and-2. 3. Defense for shitting the bed. 3. Refs.** I pick #1 because A) We lack elite pass rush talent on defense. Shitting the bed against great offenses is gonna happen, especially on the road. B) I like aggressive, outside-the-box calls. C) I never blame the refs. It's chickenshit. Poll forthcoming, as soon as I yank it out of Brandon Flowers' ass.
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10-17-2010, 04:03 PM	#32
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $495421	I was holding my heart throughout this game like Red Fox. Geeze I want to blame the refs for that BS call but too many bad plays on defense side to let one play break us. Cassel wtf, best game so far as a Chief but he still has a ways to go. Ya know what Jamaal and Jones played outstanding they were fighting for every yard they deserve a game ball if we would have won. D Bowe played his best game this year too. I just say our defense let us down and leave it at that.
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10-17-2010, 04:04 PM	#33
Lzen Banded Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oz Casino cash: $-109308	There should be an option for all of the above. I believe that all were equal parts in this loss. __________________ Conversation would be vastly improved by the constant use of four simple words: I do not know.
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10-17-2010, 04:04 PM	#34
Extra Point MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Prairie Village, KS Casino cash: $10004900	Can't change my vote from 4 to a 2. #2 was the turd on the menu. Weis did a great job. Just picked the wrong play. A RG-C left-RG pull right-trap off Waters' left hip would have done the trick, with Jones carrying the ball, even if they had to go for it on 4th down. PRN, all the rest of the game. Jones transitioned from disbelief to disgruntlement when the camera got him. The interference call was pathetic, but that's how it goes. Flowers did a great job, and showed a lot of heart. The defense did as good a job as I could expect.
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10-17-2010, 04:13 PM	#40
Chiefs Rool Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Top City Casino cash: $10004900	It's gotta be the defense, but some coaching definitely played a big role in the loss. Most of all the 3rd and 2 call. The refs certainly screwed us a bit too, the bad spot on the 3rd down run, the flowers thing, a good amount of no-calls that we should have got. I don't watch enough of other teams to make a comparison if other teams get fucked by refs at the same rate that we do.
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