Chiefs Settling the blame game. - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2010, 03:40 PM

Who do you blame most for the loss?

1. Cassel for general non-franchise-QB-****ery.

2. Weis for calling a pass play on 3rd-and-2.

3. Defense for shitting the bed.

3. Refs.

I pick #1 because

A) We lack elite pass rush talent on defense. Shitting the bed against great offenses is gonna happen, especially on the road.

B) I like aggressive, outside-the-box calls.

C) I never blame the refs. It's chickenshit.

Poll forthcoming, as soon as I yank it out of Brandon Flowers' ass.

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 03:49 PM

The whole team fell apart in the fourth quarter. You can't kick field goals against a team like Houston; you need TDs, and you need them every time you're in the red zone. You can't give a team like the Texans a short field repeatedly following kickoffs, either. You can't give a team with a QB like Schaub and a receiver like Johnson unlimited time to pick your secondary apart. And if you get the ball with 3:30 to go, with the lead, on a day where you have over 400 yards of offense, you damn well ought to be able to run the ****ing clock out. That was just inexcusable. I don't care who makes the play, the QB (who missed the open receiver), or one of the runningbacks who's been prison-raping their defense all afternoon, SOMEBODY has to make a goddamn play. And the same goes for the defense at the end. Sack the QB, force a fumble, intercept a pass. DO SOMETHING.

Everybody was to blame. Coaches and players in all three phases.

Thig Lyfe · 10-17-2010, 03:50 PM

I rank it thusly:

1. Defense rolling over
2. Offense not closing the deal (particularly on the 3rd & 2 play)
3. Cassel not coming through in the clutch
4. Refs putting their balls on our chins and brushing our teeth with their dicks

**doomy3** · 10-17-2010, 03:50 PM

I voted Weis's playcall. Really, it is a tie to me between that and the defense. The reason I went with Weis is because it was such a bad playcall on a play that would have iced the game. Go with your strengths. Give the ball to Jones or Charles and let the clock run.

The defense sucked in the second half. But, the Texans have a great offense. Not making an excuse for them, but when you have the ball and a chance to put the game away and run out the clock, you have to do it. You simply can't give the ball back to an offense that explosive with that much time.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-17-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The whole team fell apart in the fourth quarter. You can't kick field goals against a team like Houston; you need TDs, and you need them every time you're in the red zone. You can't give a team like the Texans a short field repeatedly following kickoffs, either. You can't give a team with a QB like Schaub and a receiver like Johnson unlimited time to pick your secondary apart. And if you get the ball with 3:30 to go, with the lead, on a day where you have over 400 yards of offense, you damn well ought to be able to run the ****ing clock out. That was just inexcusable. I don't care who makes the play, the QB (who missed the open receiver), or one of the runningbacks who's been prison-raping their defense all afternoon, SOMEBODY has to make a goddamn play. And the same goes for the defense at the end. Sack the QB, force a fumble, intercept a pass. DO SOMETHING.

Everybody was to blame. Coaches and players in all three phases.

Rep.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I went into this game expecting to give up points. Maybe not 35, but 20+.

I agree, but all they had to do was make one ****ing stop. One. That 4th qt was reminiscent of the spinner D.

**Dartgod** · 10-17-2010, 03:51 PM

Anyone who blames Cassel for this loss is and idiot.

The defense let us down plain and simple. The 3rd and 2 call was bad, but the D forced 1 punt in the 2nd half. The rest of Houston's drives all resulted in TDs. No excuse for that.

Mr. Laz · 10-17-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

The world is ending, I am agreeing with Goatcheese....

so our offense scores 31 points and our QB is 20/29 with 3TD's and no INTs

our defense gave up 21 points in the 4th quarter (total - 35 pts,350 yrds )

and you still blame our QB?

you and goatcheese are both drunk idiots

Thig Lyfe · 10-17-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Definately lack an elite pass rush. Schaub had all day to throw on most plays.

Romeo had them playing way too soft in the second half, too. When they sent a couple more rushers, Schaub finally made bad throws.

Mr. Laz · 10-17-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Romeo had them playing way too soft in the second half, too. When they sent a couple more rushers, Schaub finally made bad throws.

yep ... Chiefs got a lead and started playing conservative

got Haley written all over it

That's why coaching gets the blame right behind defensive collapse

the two pooch kickoffs were reeruned too

Thig Lyfe · 10-17-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I voted Weis's playcall. Really, it is a tie to me between that and the defense. The reason I went with Weis is because it was such a bad playcall on a play that would have iced the game. Go with your strengths. Give the ball to Jones or Charles and let the clock run.

The defense sucked in the second half. But, the Texans have a great offense. Not making an excuse for them, but when you have the ball and a chance to put the game away and run out the clock, you have to do it. You simply can't give the ball back to an offense that explosive with that much time.

Yep. As bad as the defense played, the offense was put in a position to win it and couldn't close the deal.

I still blame the defense first for letting Houston back in the game, but saying the offense shouldn't take a lot of the blame just because they scored a ton of points is silly.

**Bearcat** · 10-17-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I pick #1 because

A) We lack elite pass rush talent on defense. Shitting the bed against great offenses is gonna happen, especially on the road.

B) I like aggressive, outside-the-box calls.

C) I never blame the refs. It's chickenshit.

Poll forthcoming, as soon as I yank it out of Brandon Flowers' ass.

I agree with all of that, but voted for Weis and the 3rd down play... really though, the call was full of fail. Calling a pass in that situation, the call itself which didn't seem to be a high percentage play, Moeaki pulling up, and Cassel's throw might have been overthrown even had the TE not stopped.

Guess you have to take the good with the bad... the 4th down calls cost us 3 points against the Colts and gained us 4 points against Houston... but in the 4th quarter, after watching the run game wear down the defense all day, you do what works.

patteeu · 10-17-2010, 03:56 PM

It's impossible to pick one cause for this loss. There were miscues/failures on the part of many different people and if almost any of them had been avoided the Chiefs might have won this game. None of them were THE cause of the loss.

I agree with those who say that blaming the refs is weak sauce, but it's even weaker sauce to blame the play calling in this game, IMO. The Chiefs' offense played very well today and a big part of that was the play calling.

Marcellus · 10-17-2010, 03:57 PM

I voted defense. DJ played like his d self rather than new self. Hali got ****ed again but needs to ay through it.

Flowers was a stud and yes the non call was BS.

All things considered we beat ourselves but not
in any way that isn't correctable so I can be pissed but deal with it. We lose next week and then I am concerned.

Stewie · 10-17-2010, 03:57 PM

Up by 10 and kick it to the 35 that's returned to our 45. Genious!

**Ming the Merciless** · 10-17-2010, 03:58 PM

Defense shit the bed.

If you score more than 30 points and have a big lead toward the end of the game, you have to blame the D.

View Poll Results: Who do you blame most?
Cassel for general non-franchise-QB-****ery.	16	12.03%
Weis for calling a pass play on 3rd-and-2.	21	15.79%
Defense for shitting the bed.	80	60.15%
Refs.	16	12.03%
Voters: 133. You may not vote on this poll

10-17-2010, 03:40 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1520478	Settling the blame game. Who do you blame most for the loss? 1. Cassel for general non-franchise-QB-**ery. 2. Weis for calling a pass play on 3rd-and-2. 3. Defense for shitting the bed. 3. Refs.** I pick #1 because A) We lack elite pass rush talent on defense. Shitting the bed against great offenses is gonna happen, especially on the road. B) I like aggressive, outside-the-box calls. C) I never blame the refs. It's chickenshit. Poll forthcoming, as soon as I yank it out of Brandon Flowers' ass.
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10-17-2010, 03:49 PM	#16
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	The whole team fell apart in the fourth quarter. You can't kick field goals against a team like Houston; you need TDs, and you need them every time you're in the red zone. You can't give a team like the Texans a short field repeatedly following kickoffs, either. You can't give a team with a QB like Schaub and a receiver like Johnson unlimited time to pick your secondary apart. And if you get the ball with 3:30 to go, with the lead, on a day where you have over 400 yards of offense, you damn well ought to be able to run the ****ing clock out. That was just inexcusable. I don't care who makes the play, the QB (who missed the open receiver), or one of the runningbacks who's been prison-raping their defense all afternoon, SOMEBODY has to make a goddamn play. And the same goes for the defense at the end. Sack the QB, force a fumble, intercept a pass. DO SOMETHING. Everybody was to blame. Coaches and players in all three phases.
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10-17-2010, 03:50 PM	#17
Thig Lyfe Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Thigpen's America Casino cash: $10004900	I rank it thusly: 1. Defense rolling over 2. Offense not closing the deal (particularly on the 3rd & 2 play) 3. Cassel not coming through in the clutch 4. Refs putting their balls on our chins and brushing our teeth with their dicks
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10-17-2010, 03:50 PM	#18
doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $3633539	I voted Weis's playcall. Really, it is a tie to me between that and the defense. The reason I went with Weis is because it was such a bad playcall on a play that would have iced the game. Go with your strengths. Give the ball to Jones or Charles and let the clock run. The defense sucked in the second half. But, the Texans have a great offense. Not making an excuse for them, but when you have the ball and a chance to put the game away and run out the clock, you have to do it. You simply can't give the ball back to an offense that explosive with that much time.
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10-17-2010, 03:51 PM	#21
Dartgod Wasted away again... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: in Margaritaville Casino cash: $4290000	Anyone who blames Cassel for this loss is and idiot. The defense let us down plain and simple. The 3rd and 2 call was bad, but the D forced 1 punt in the 2nd half. The rest of Houston's drives all resulted in TDs. No excuse for that. __________________ If you shed a tear for me, please make it a tear of joy. -Joe Tracy (Nzoner) . .
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10-17-2010, 03:56 PM	#27
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	It's impossible to pick one cause for this loss. There were miscues/failures on the part of many different people and if almost any of them had been avoided the Chiefs might have won this game. None of them were THE cause of the loss. I agree with those who say that blaming the refs is weak sauce, but it's even weaker sauce to blame the play calling in this game, IMO. The Chiefs' offense played very well today and a big part of that was the play calling. __________________ “Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
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10-17-2010, 03:57 PM	#28
Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $122662	I voted defense. DJ played like his d self rather than new self. Hali got ****ed again but needs to ay through it. Flowers was a stud and yes the non call was BS. All things considered we beat ourselves but not in any way that isn't correctable so I can be pissed but deal with it. We lose next week and then I am concerned.
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10-17-2010, 03:57 PM	#29
Stewie MVP Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West of the Equator Casino cash: $-1100099	Up by 10 and kick it to the 35 that's returned to our 45. Genious!
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10-17-2010, 03:58 PM	#30
Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $-52444	Defense shit the bed. If you score more than 30 points and have a big lead toward the end of the game, you have to blame the D.
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