Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment

[Mr. Laz]

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

[HolyHandgernade]

Originally Posted by chiefsnorth

This is terrible for Missouri, who stood a chance to be adopted by a power conference. It's good for Baylor, Kansas State, Iowa State, Kansas... the ones on the cusp of being mid-majors.

Although the argument could be made that the loss of two teams and the replacement by inferior teams, plus the consolidation of power in the big 3, means the Big 12 is more like a mid-major football conference.

Now Texas is once again like the road captain, letting everyone know those chains are for their own good. Wish they'd stop being so good to everyone.

Guess all these other schools will just have to accept that they have been moved down a peg in football relevancy, while the schools in major conferences have all improved themselves.

If the Big 12 is to become more relevant in the future they need to add quality football progams and lose the millstone football programs.
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I'm sorry, but this is exactly the attitude that got you played in the first place. You think your program is bigger than it is, has more appeal than it does, draws more from its market bases than it will. You are in a major football conference. You are getting paid close to what the good SEC teams get paid despite not having near the chops to justify it. You got to kepp your natural rivalries, keep your reduced travel time, and almost double your revenues. You're given so much more than Boise State is and yet you make it sound like its "the deal" that keeps you down.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

I'm sorry, but this is exactly the attitude that got you played in the first place. You think your program is bigger than it is, has more appeal than it does, draws more from its market bases than it will. You are in a major football conference. You are getting paid close to what the good SEC teams get paid despite not having near the chops to justify it. You got to kepp your natural rivalries, keep your reduced travel time, and almost double your revenues. You're given so much more than Boise State is and yet you make it sound like its "the deal" that keeps you down.

The OSU and Texas Tech bit is the beautiful kick in the teeth.

[HolyHandgernade]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The OSU and Texas Tech bit is the beautiful kick in the teeth.

Yeah, but that's through association via the respective state's Board of Regents, not necessaily because they are "much" better progams. Association has benefits if your associates are powerful.

[MoreLemonPledge]

The Big 12 South (or whatever it's called now) totally used the North as its Fleshlight.

[ChiefsNWildcats]

What are some other programs in other conferences that are comparable to MU, KU, and KSU? How will we stack up with them with the new revenue?

All have been very competitive with other similar teams with even the previous TV deal. Will doubling our money not make things even better?

I don't concern myself with how much more Texas has. I know my school will never be up there with them. What I want to do is be up there with other middle tier schools. I feel this new conference accomlishes that. Doubled our income and probably will recruit Texas kids a bit better.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

The Big 12 South (or whatever it's called now) totally used the North as its Fleshlight.

Its froglight, even.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ChiefsNWildcats

What are some other programs in other conferences that are comparable to MU, KU, and KSU? How will we stack up with them with the new revenue?

All have been very competitive with other similar teams with even the previous TV deal. Will doubling our money not make things even better?

I don't concern myself with how much more Texas has. I know my school will never be up there with them. What I want to do is be up there with other middle tier schools. I feel this new conference accomlishes that. Doubled our income and probably will recruit Texas kids a bit better.

Arkansas is a perfect match, IMO. While Arkansas has a little more football history, it's also been about on par with MU for the better part of the last 15 years. MU also has a distinct advantage in television households.

Arkansas gets about $17 million/season from it's deal. Facially, 2+ million more/season isn't immaterial, but I don't suppose it's worth going crazy over either.

But that's not really the problem. The problem is that this deal will continue to create instability within the conference. The SEC deal was a unified contract that had everyone in the conference happy and ready to move forward. This deal is just going to continue to foster animosity.

Absolutely nothing was solved here, in fact the leash got even shorter.

[Archie Bunker]

UPDATE, 10:15 a.m.: Speaking to reporters in Austin, Texas, Texas President Bill Powers seemed to debunk reports that the Big 12 revenue-sharing policy will be changed to a tiered system that was reported here and elsewhere. "We oppose that kind of deal," Powers said, referring to a special bonuses for certain schools. "We will be distributing money like we have done previously."

Powers said he is not aware of any "firm deal" with TV networks and that Texas' return to the Big 12 was based on economic estimates of the value of the Big 12.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblo...-the-old-boss/

[beer bacon]

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

UPDATE, 10:15 a.m.: Speaking to reporters in Austin, Texas, Texas President Bill Powers seemed to debunk reports that the Big 12 revenue-sharing policy will be changed to a tiered system that was reported here and elsewhere. "We oppose that kind of deal," Powers said, referring to a special bonuses for certain schools. "We will be distributing money like we have done previously."

Powers said he is not aware of any "firm deal" with TV networks and that Texas' return to the Big 12 was based on economic estimates of the value of the Big 12.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblo...-the-old-boss/

This is good news for Missouri if true. It isn't what we wanted, but the status quo is better than what was reported yesterday.

[kepp]

How much is the TV deal worth per year overall? I guess no one really knows that yet. If the tiered system were true, then it would be somewhere around $170-$180 million per year:

Tier 1: $25mm/year x 3 = $75mm
Tier 2: $17mm/year x 2 = $34mm
Tier 3: $14mm/year x 5 = $70mm

I that is the approximate value, and we AREN'T going to use the tiered system, then the schools stand to see a lot more $$. What are the distribution percentages from last year? If we applied those percentages to $170 million, what would each school get?

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

I'm sorry, but this is exactly the attitude that got you played in the first place. You think your program is bigger than it is, has more appeal than it does, draws more from its market bases than it will. You are in a major football conference. You are getting paid close to what the good SEC teams get paid despite not having near the chops to justify it. You got to kepp your natural rivalries, keep your reduced travel time, and almost double your revenues. You're given so much more than Boise State is and yet you make it sound like its "the deal" that keeps you down.

Finally, a post from HHG that actually makes a lick of sense.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

I'm sorry, but this is exactly the attitude that got you played in the first place. You think your program is bigger than it is, has more appeal than it does, draws more from its market bases than it will. You are in a major football conference. You are getting paid close to what the good SEC teams get paid despite not having near the chops to justify it. You got to kepp your natural rivalries, keep your reduced travel time, and almost double your revenues. You're given so much more than Boise State is and yet you make it sound like its "the deal" that keeps you down.

Wait, what's a "gernade"?

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Finally, a post from HHG that actually makes a lick of sense.

Don't be a dumbass. HHG is a good poster.

[ceebz]

So, word is CU will be paying a 6-8 million dollar penalty for leaving the Big 12.

One has to wonder how they're going to pay that when they couldn't afford Hawkins' $3mm buyout.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by ceebz

So, word is CU will be paying a 6-8 million dollar penalty for leaving the Big 12.

One has to wonder how they're going to pay that when they couldn't afford Hawkins' $3mm buyout.

Yeah, the Big12 will be dribbling that check to the bank.