Other Sports Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment - Page 347

Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

Sure-Oz · 06-13-2010, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya

If Mizzou got on it's knees, that just sucks. What a crock of shit. If you are gonna start something... finish it.

It's like leaving your wife for this hot chick... but then finding out the hot chick doesn't want you... now you have to kiss your wife's ass to come back home.

WTF

Yeah, find another hot chick

ceebz · 06-13-2010, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

don't you want to actually join a stronger conference? That west division sucks teh ass.

And all speculation is that Rutgers will eventually go Big Ten.

Staying in a weakened Big 12 is better than going to the Big East. More $ and less travel.

healthpellets · 06-13-2010, 01:15 PM

DeLoss Dodds says...

Quote:

ChipBrownOB Unequal revenue sharing formula wouldn't change if Big 12-Lite was to survive. But each school would have $17m to console themselves.

oh goody!

teedubya · 06-13-2010, 01:22 PM

Nebraska entered into its shotgun marriage in 1994 with the Big 12 in a cranky mood and left it Friday with barely the politest of farewells. The Huskers had been a leader in the Big Eight and for 16 years never seemed comfortable with how power in its new home emanated from Austin.

By contrast, the announcement Friday that Nebraska would leap into the waiting arms of the Big Ten could be described as nothing more than a lovefest. And if you think about it, there's no university outside of South Bend, Ind., that fits into those Big Ten arms better than Nebraska.

"We are stronger today," Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said in a Lincoln, Neb., news conference. "Nebraska is an unbelievable program with an unbelievable legacy. It will make us better than before they joined the Big Ten Conference."

If you're keeping score, the Big Ten now has 12 teams, and the Big 12 now has 10, at least until the Texas regents meet Tuesday. The board will decide, for all intents and purposes, whether the Big 12 will live or die. If Texas leaves, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State appear sure to follow.

Where Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Iowa State and Baylor end up is anybody's guess. Maybe the American Red Cross will set up a shelter.

Nebraska, judging by the comments of athletic director and resident legend Tom Osborne, assumed they will need one.

"One school leaving does not break up a conference," Osborne said at the Nebraska board of regents meeting Friday. "Two schools does not. Six schools leaving breaks up a conference."

Like the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the rumors of impermanence that have floated for weeks off the Big 12 coast rolled ashore over the last 36 hours and brought disaster with them. Colorado left for the Pac-10, but no one much flinched.

Nebraska, however, is the anchor of the league's North Division. University officials scoffed at the idea that staying in the Big 12 would be as secure, financially and otherwise, as moving to the Big 10.

Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman said at the regents meeting that Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe asked him Wednesday for the university to commit to the league through 2016. Perlman responded by calling Delaney to see if he thought love might blossom.

"Neither Tom nor I felt that was a very long-term commitment for the Big 12," Perlman said. "We thought our obligation to the University of Nebraska was to protect it from the vulnerability of being without a conference altogether. At that point, we re-engaged the leadership of the Big Ten."

AP Photo/Nati Harnik
Tom Osborne had a sometimes contentious relationship with the Big 12.
Delany and his conference presidents offered long-term security, a more prestigious academic environment, and, yes, more money. But they also offered a collegiality that Nebraska struggled to find in the Big 12. The headbutting had nothing to do with personality.

"Some of those people we've had an association with for over 100 years," Osborne said. "If some of them end up in unpleasant circumstances, we are really sorry for that. We do have good feelings about the conference and its membership. But we are really looking forward to the Big Ten."

The Big 12 formed as a marriage of convenience. Texas and its Southwest Conference buddies had TV sets and a state full of recruits. Nebraska and the Big Eight lacked clout in the media marketplace. The union, consummated in 1994, didn't survive the honeymoon without a couple of fights.

Osborne, then at the peak of his Hall of Fame coaching career, wanted the league to allow its members to accept academic non-qualifiers under the NCAA's requirements for incoming freshmen.

As Osborne wrote in his book, "On Solid Ground," the conference presidents tabled the matter until the spring of 1996, only to hold a conference-call vote in December 1995. The vote went 11-1 to ban the non-qualifiers, with Nebraska the lone dissenter.

That vote has stuck in Osborne's craw to this day, one former colleague said, even though the NCAA banned non-qualifiers from all FBS schools soon after the Big 12 vote.

The league also voted 11-1 to establish a championship game, with Nebraska again the holdout.

Life in the Big 12 became smoother. The league is the only one of the six automatic-qualifier conferences to apportion half of its revenues based on television appearances. That works in the favor of Texas and Nebraska. So does the vast recruiting territory of the Lone Star State, which may become more difficult for the Huskers to harvest now that they won't play any games there.

In the end, Nebraska set that aside to join a league in which it felt at home. Late in the news conference Friday, Delany described a Big Ten that does business in a different manner.

"Inside the Big Ten, there aren't a lot of votes taken," Delany said. "Harvey brought up a lot of 11-1 votes. Our people bring up ideas. They are reluctant to make changes unless [there is consensus]. I don't even remember deciding anything on a 6-5 vote."

Huskers football coach Bo Pelini dismissed the idea that he would miss Big 12 rivalries.

"I'm not a real emotional guy," Pelini said before breaking into laughter.

No, Nebraska won't be looking back with remorse, regret or nostalgia at its time in the Big 12. The Huskers have a new home. Their partners are as happy to have them as they are to be there. Love is a beautiful thing.

Ivan Maisel is a senior writer for ESPN.com and hosts the ESPNU College Football podcast. Send your questions and comments to him at Ivan.Maisel@ESPN.com.

|Zach| · 06-13-2010, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass

I will be surprised if MU doesn't end up in the B10. Delaney knows he doesn't have to rush, is watching to see what P10 does, letting ND start to read the writing on the wall then watching to see what ND decides to do (if anything).
MU would be a natural fit in the B10.

Yea, shit isn't going to happen with the B10 again until the P10 makes their moves.

**alanm** · 06-13-2010, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Mizzou didn't start shit, it was just known that they would leave if offered

Well... Don't you think that was the catalyst?

Frazod · 06-13-2010, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm

Well... Don't you think that was the catalyst?

I think people are confusing what Missouri fans wanted with what the University itself was doing (whatever that was).

**alanm** · 06-13-2010, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

From a fan standpoint, there is nothing good about continuing to be Texas' bitch. I don't care where we end up as long as it's away from them. If it happens, I guess I'd have to at least try to start liking basketball, because under this plan nobody outside Texas and Oklahoma would ever be relevant in football again.

But sadly, our ineffective, useless, gutless, brainless, dickless AD will probably jump on it. Of all the rumored reports, this is the one I absolutely hope ends up false.

The thing is Tim, Texas will go where they have the best chance to be the top dog. And that isn't going to happen in the Pac 10. So it makes sense that if their promised their own network they'll probably stay.

Titty Meat · 06-13-2010, 01:40 PM

Anyone know where I can listen to the Nebraska Board of Regents meeting at?

Also, I believe Mizzou did say they would listen to the Big Ten.

Thig Lyfe · 06-13-2010, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Take the deal Big XII

http://www.cbssports.com/general/sto...eadlines;other

That would be awesome. Built-in rivalry with KU in basketball. DO IT!

Thig Lyfe · 06-13-2010, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

Anyone know where I can listen to the Nebraska Board of Regence meeting at?

lol

**DeezNutz** · 06-13-2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer

That would be awesome. Built-in rivalry with KU in basketball. DO IT!

I think that move would be very stupid for both KU and MU.

vailpass · 06-13-2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3

Every Man a Wildcat

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD

Acronym for Every Man A Wildcat

Corny? Yes. And I was born in Manhattan...

Gracias

Pablo · 06-13-2010, 01:46 PM

**** plugging holes in this sinking Big 12 ship.

**** Texas.

**** the MWC. Sorry Buck, I know you think the conference has something valuable to add to the Big 12 or vice-versa; but this is the absolute worse case scenario.

Just get KU into a power-conference and I don't give a shit what happens with the rest of this shit.

Pablo · 06-13-2010, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer

lol

Give billay a break. He doesn't have time to hit the books when there's plenty of flexing to be done.

04-30-2010, 08:41 PM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska. Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is. He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports. "We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about." The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on. The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement. http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html Last edited by Mr. Laz; 06-10-2010 at 02:57 PM..
Posts: 95,626

06-13-2010, 01:22 PM	#5194
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9003042	Nebraska entered into its shotgun marriage in 1994 with the Big 12 in a cranky mood and left it Friday with barely the politest of farewells. The Huskers had been a leader in the Big Eight and for 16 years never seemed comfortable with how power in its new home emanated from Austin. By contrast, the announcement Friday that Nebraska would leap into the waiting arms of the Big Ten could be described as nothing more than a lovefest. And if you think about it, there's no university outside of South Bend, Ind., that fits into those Big Ten arms better than Nebraska. "We are stronger today," Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said in a Lincoln, Neb., news conference. "Nebraska is an unbelievable program with an unbelievable legacy. It will make us better than before they joined the Big Ten Conference." If you're keeping score, the Big Ten now has 12 teams, and the Big 12 now has 10, at least until the Texas regents meet Tuesday. The board will decide, for all intents and purposes, whether the Big 12 will live or die. If Texas leaves, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State appear sure to follow. Where Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Iowa State and Baylor end up is anybody's guess. Maybe the American Red Cross will set up a shelter. Nebraska, judging by the comments of athletic director and resident legend Tom Osborne, assumed they will need one. "One school leaving does not break up a conference," Osborne said at the Nebraska board of regents meeting Friday. "Two schools does not. Six schools leaving breaks up a conference." Like the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the rumors of impermanence that have floated for weeks off the Big 12 coast rolled ashore over the last 36 hours and brought disaster with them. Colorado left for the Pac-10, but no one much flinched. Nebraska, however, is the anchor of the league's North Division. University officials scoffed at the idea that staying in the Big 12 would be as secure, financially and otherwise, as moving to the Big 10. Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman said at the regents meeting that Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe asked him Wednesday for the university to commit to the league through 2016. Perlman responded by calling Delaney to see if he thought love might blossom. "Neither Tom nor I felt that was a very long-term commitment for the Big 12," Perlman said. "We thought our obligation to the University of Nebraska was to protect it from the vulnerability of being without a conference altogether. At that point, we re-engaged the leadership of the Big Ten." AP Photo/Nati Harnik Tom Osborne had a sometimes contentious relationship with the Big 12. Delany and his conference presidents offered long-term security, a more prestigious academic environment, and, yes, more money. But they also offered a collegiality that Nebraska struggled to find in the Big 12. The headbutting had nothing to do with personality. "Some of those people we've had an association with for over 100 years," Osborne said. "If some of them end up in unpleasant circumstances, we are really sorry for that. We do have good feelings about the conference and its membership. But we are really looking forward to the Big Ten." The Big 12 formed as a marriage of convenience. Texas and its Southwest Conference buddies had TV sets and a state full of recruits. Nebraska and the Big Eight lacked clout in the media marketplace. The union, consummated in 1994, didn't survive the honeymoon without a couple of fights. Osborne, then at the peak of his Hall of Fame coaching career, wanted the league to allow its members to accept academic non-qualifiers under the NCAA's requirements for incoming freshmen. As Osborne wrote in his book, "On Solid Ground," the conference presidents tabled the matter until the spring of 1996, only to hold a conference-call vote in December 1995. The vote went 11-1 to ban the non-qualifiers, with Nebraska the lone dissenter. That vote has stuck in Osborne's craw to this day, one former colleague said, even though the NCAA banned non-qualifiers from all FBS schools soon after the Big 12 vote. The league also voted 11-1 to establish a championship game, with Nebraska again the holdout. Life in the Big 12 became smoother. The league is the only one of the six automatic-qualifier conferences to apportion half of its revenues based on television appearances. That works in the favor of Texas and Nebraska. So does the vast recruiting territory of the Lone Star State, which may become more difficult for the Huskers to harvest now that they won't play any games there. In the end, Nebraska set that aside to join a league in which it felt at home. Late in the news conference Friday, Delany described a Big Ten that does business in a different manner. "Inside the Big Ten, there aren't a lot of votes taken," Delany said. "Harvey brought up a lot of 11-1 votes. Our people bring up ideas. They are reluctant to make changes unless [there is consensus]. I don't even remember deciding anything on a 6-5 vote." Huskers football coach Bo Pelini dismissed the idea that he would miss Big 12 rivalries. "I'm not a real emotional guy," Pelini said before breaking into laughter. No, Nebraska won't be looking back with remorse, regret or nostalgia at its time in the Big 12. The Huskers have a new home. Their partners are as happy to have them as they are to be there. Love is a beautiful thing. Ivan Maisel is a senior writer for ESPN.com and hosts the ESPNU College Football podcast. Send your questions and comments to him at Ivan.Maisel@ESPN.com.
Posts: 36,826

06-13-2010, 01:40 PM	#5199
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-982442	Anyone know where I can listen to the Nebraska Board of Regents meeting at? Also, I believe Mizzou did say they would listen to the Big Ten. Last edited by Titty Meat; 06-13-2010 at 01:49 PM..
Posts: 78,086

06-13-2010, 01:46 PM	#5204
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northland Casino cash: $-1660644	** plugging holes in this sinking Big 12 ship. Texas. ** the MWC. Sorry Buck, I know you think the conference has something valuable to add to the Big 12 or vice-versa; but this is the absolute worse case scenario. Just get KU into a power-conference and I don't give a shit what happens with the rest of this shit.
Posts: 43,789