Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment

[Mr. Laz]

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

See what I mean about having the intellect of a child? The use of 'I'm' negates the 3rd person.

You always speak in third person so I just assumed you were talking about yourself [again].

[Buck]

Here's an article about MWC and their possibility of adding Big 12 teams. I ant paste the article on my iPod.

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2010...-mountain.html

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by kstater

Don't worry, I'm sure your 11th grade English class will cover what 3rd person narrative actually entails.

Can't be any worse than Kstate?

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Links to see where other public universities rank? For example, here's a source that shows Florida at #47 in law and KU at #67: http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsa...ankings/page+3

As this suggests, once we get beyond the "elite" institutions, there's a great deal of subjectivity. KU, MU, Florida...about the same. Michigan, Texas, blah, blah, blah = on a different level.

Not to beat a dead horse, but..

The 2008 report “The Top American Research Universities” by the Center for Measuring University Performance, Arizona State University in the section for “Top Public Research Universities”. The website for this report is http://mup.asu.edu/research2008.pdf and it provides the following ranking of America’s top 25 public research universities. With the methodology used, the highest score attainable is nine.

In this measure, UF is among the top 7 public universities in terms of research.

Name # of Measures in Top 25 - # of Measures in Top 25-50 - Total Research - Control Rank - Federal Research - Control Rank - Endowment - Control Rank
9. University of California - Berkeley 9 0 546,035 12 261,718 16 2,894,932 5
9. University of California - Los Angeles 9 0 811,493 2 483,873 4 2,683,872 7
9. University of Florida 9 0 565,491 11 248,322 18 1,219,026 19
9. University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign 9 0 476,198 16 264,645 15 1,100,000 22
9. University of Michigan - Ann Arbor 9 0 800,488 3 565,739 2 7,089,830 2
9. University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill 9 0 443,790 18 329,215 8 2,164,444 11
9. University of Wisconsin - Madison 9 0 831,895 1 491,810 3 1,916,701 12

8. Georgia Institute of Technology 8 1 440,898 19 257,751 17 1,608,682 14
8. Ohio State University - Columbus 8 1 652,329 7 315,914 11 2,338,103 8
8. Pennsylvania State Univ. - Univ. Park 8 1 567,549 10 320,258 10 1,173,420 21
8. University of Pittsburgh - Pittsburgh 8 1 530,162 14 422,316 7 2,254,379 9
8. University of Washington - Seattle 8 1 778,148 5 650,394 1 2,184,374 10
8. University of Minnesota - Twin Cities 8 0 594,877 8 326,170 9 2,804,466 6

7. Texas A&M University 7 2 492,955 15 206,242 25 6,149,804 3
7. University of California - San Diego 7 2 754,766 6 463,807 6 522,842 48
7. University of Texas - Austin 7 2 431,398 20 273,147 14 7,190,136 1
7. University of Arizona 7 1 535,847 13 301,619 12 532,351 46
7. University of California - San Francisco 7 0 796,149 4 464,660 5 1,362,656 17

6. University of Virginia 6 3 238,754 48 203,778 27 4,370,209 4
6. Purdue University - West Lafayette 6 2 372,958 22 157,438 37 1,786,592 13
6. University of Maryland - College Park 6 2 354,244 24 209,764 24 446,648 53

5. Michigan State University 5 3 358,097 23 169,116 36 1,247,713 18
5. University of California - Davis 5 3 573,002 9 248,190 19 650,691 34
5. University of Iowa 5 3 346,357 25 216,521 23 982,428 23
5. Univ. of Texas SW Medical Ctr. - Dallas 5 2 333,237 26 196,621 30 1,434,560 15

4. University of Colorado - Boulder 4 2 250,255 42 223,666 20 404,648 63

3. North Carolina State University 3 6 330,936 29 131,262 43 535,003 45
3. Univ. of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Ctr. 3 2 457,696 17 182,028 33 564,505 41

2. Rutgers - St. U. of NJ - New Brunswick 2 6 280,994 37 118,732 48 601,849 37
2. University of California - Irvine 2 6 300,229 33 169,983 35 226,738 92
2. University of Kentucky 2 4 323,958 30 151,238 40 957,608 25
2. Indiana University - Bloomington 2 3 142,002 72 68,254 77 924,420 26
2. University of California - Santa Barbara 2 3 174,429 66 106,169 55 190,038 105

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by billay

You always speak in third person so I just assumed you were talking about yourself [again].

Again, the use of 'I'm' would negate the 3rd person.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by billay

Can't be any worse than Kstate?

You may want to have correct sentence structure when degrading someone's education.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by kstater

You may want to have correct sentence structure when degrading someone's education.

They teach people how to milk cows at Kstate what a fine school.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Laz

add more texas teams ... brilliant

no significant t.v. market additions and 2 more yes votes to anything that Texas says.

Yes we lost the Denver market.. not huge but significant... Picking up a larger share of the Houston market should make up for that.

The problem is... what schools OUTSIDE of Texas in this general area are any good??? I certainly can't come up with any that aren't in bigger/better conferences.

IF you want to save the Big 12... it makes the most sense... if you want to take your chances and hope all the Big 12 schools get invites to BCS conferences... good luck.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by billay

They teach people how to milk cows at Kstate what a fine school.

I'm fairly certain most already know how to milk a cow prior to setting foot on campus.

[KcMizzou]

There are 67 BCS schools right now. If it goes to four 16 team "Super Conferences", we're looking at 3 left out.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Not to beat a dead horse, but..

The 2008 report “The Top American Research Universities” by the Center for Measuring University Performance, Arizona State University in the section for “Top Public Research Universities”. The website for this report is http://mup.asu.edu/research2008.pdf and it provides the following ranking of America’s top 25 public research universities. With the methodology used, the highest score attainable is nine.

Severe credibility issues arose within the second line of your post....

( ASU academic slams are obligatory out here)

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Yes we lost the Denver market.. not huge but significant... Picking up a larger share of the Houston market should make up for that.

The problem is... what schools OUTSIDE of Texas in this general area are any good??? I certainly can't come up with any that aren't in bigger/better conferences.

IF you want to save the Big 12... it makes the most sense... if you want to take your chances and hope all the Big 12 schools get invites to BCS conferences... good luck.

This thing is far from over. UT & CU may well be in the same confernece again soon. MU may yet re-join Nebraska.
The only thing for sure right now is that emotions are running high.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by vailpass

This thing is far from over. UT & CU may well be in the same confernece again soon. MU may yet re-join Nebraska.
The only thing for sure right now is that emotions are running high.

Exactly.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Yes we lost the Denver market.. not huge but significant... Picking up a larger share of the Houston market should make up for that.

The problem is... what schools OUTSIDE of Texas in this general area are any good??? I certainly can't come up with any that aren't in bigger/better conferences.

IF you want to save the Big 12... it makes the most sense... if you want to take your chances and hope all the Big 12 schools get invites to BCS conferences... good luck.

The Texas Longhorns control every market in Texas. They would control it even if there was no A&M, Tech, Baylor, and certainly not Houston. I don't think the Big 12 should add any Texas schools, at all. Unless it's TCU and bring in some Big East teams to get to 16.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

The Texas Longhorns control every market in Texas. They would control it even if there was no A&M, Tech, Baylor, and certainly not Houston. I don't think the Big 12 should add any Texas schools, at all. Unless it's TCU and bring in some Big East teams to get to 16.

Not really, my bet is that Houston is split 30/30/20/20 a&m, Texas, Houston, other...

Houston is a Top 25 football school once again and on the rise to be a Tier I school in academics... I would add them and TCU and ALSO add 4 more schools to keep the Big 12 relevant... but which schools? What makes sense GEOGRAPHICALLY?