Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment

[Mr. Laz]

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Uh.... whoa.

Where the hell have you been?

[alnorth]

20 scholarships? That almost makes the postseason ban look irrelevant, what is that, over 1/3 of your team gone?

I haven't been following the details at all, because I don't care about NCAA violations from PAC-10 schools, but what the holy hell did USC do? Thats one of the worst punishments in NCAA history, short of only the death penalty.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by frazod

Where the hell have you been?

Also, why did the college sports world have to implode the day before I have a ten hour drive through the freaking midwest ahead of me?

Oh well. I wasn't going to get any sleep anyways.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by alnorth

20 scholarships? That almost makes the postseason ban look irrelevant, what is that, over 1/3 of your team gone?

I haven't been following the details at all, because I don't care about NCAA violations from PAC-10 schools, but what the holy hell did USC do? Thats one of the worst punishments in NCAA history, short of only the death penalty.

The only thing remotely reported about it is the Yahoo stuff about Reggie Bush which begs the question did yahoo journalist actually help the NCAA in this which then opens a whole new bag.

There's also supposedly "secret evidence" all of this just tells me this is going to end up in court, the NCAA knew it so they went over the top to look good at 1 point in a cover your ass type of move.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by sedated

That's what I'm saying. There are a ton of football programs that could save and help the Big 12. Add TCU and Houston to the south and move OU and OSU to the north. Or add Boise and Utah/BYU.

Honestly, I don't care about the "Texas rules us all" shit right now. The discrepancy is not that much (2 or 3 million in terms of 10 or 12 million) compared to losing BCS qualification and a historic basketball program.

That's what I'm sayin. It's not like Texas dominates everyone in sports. Kansas beats them routinely in basketball and OU takes them out all the time in football.

So what if they have the biggest endowment and money.

At this point it's worth them sticking around if it means KSU, KU and MU have somewhere to play.

Nebraska can be replaced. Move OU to the North. Done.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If they do that Longhorn network thing it's going to be far more than 2 or 3 mill...

Texas biggest problem is schools either hate them and are sick of dealing with their shit or basically blow them and expect Texas to help them out in turn, generally those are shitty schools like say Baylor.

The Pac 10 wants them because with 16 teams Texas won't be able to be the it team or control anything, if the Big 12 does return in some incarnation with Texas leading it the advantage they have now is going to seem like a warm summer breeze in comparison to what they'll have then.

But I guess right now if you're a KU, Kstate, Baylor or ISU fan you'd rather take the Texas ass raping than be in a crappy conference.

uhhh. Missouri is in your grouping there too. Sorry

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

I knew SC was over the salary cap...

haha...

The Lakers of college football are done.

No wonder Larry Scott has been pushing this expansion.

That conference is about to go into the toilet.

What's the use in having a lot of TVs when there are no good teams playing on them?

Texas knows this. Sorry Pac-10

[Mecca]

I've never seen this wickedson guy post before but he's already hit elite territory, like Como level.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by alnorth

20 scholarships? That almost makes the postseason ban look irrelevant, what is that, over 1/3 of your team gone?

I haven't been following the details at all, because I don't care about NCAA violations from PAC-10 schools, but what the holy hell did USC do? Thats one of the worst punishments in NCAA history, short of only the death penalty.

Apparently a lot.

Reggie Bush's family was living in a house they didn't pay for or something.

And OJ Mayo was straight up getting paid.

[Tiger's Fan]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The only thing remotely reported about it is the Yahoo stuff about Reggie Bush which begs the question did yahoo journalist actually help the NCAA in this which then opens a whole new bag.

There's also supposedly "secret evidence" all of this just tells me this is going to end up in court, the NCAA knew it so they went over the top to look good at 1 point in a cover your ass type of move.

You do know the success rate of appeals of NCAA decisions is about nil, right?

[healthpellets]

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...onjecture.html

Mizzou board to huddle amid Big Ten conjecture
June 9, 2010 11:50 PM | No Comments
Tribune News Services

Amid bubbling uncertainty about its future conference affiliation, heightened by reports that the University of Nebraska is about to leave the Big 12 for the Big Ten, the University of Missouri Board of Curators will convene for two days of regularly scheduled meetings Thursday in Columbia, Mo.

Although the topic is not on the public agenda, the board is expected to discuss the rapidly changing college athletic scene in closed session today -- including the matter of where Missouri will end up.

The school, considered a prospective expansion target of the Big Ten, faces a June 17 deadline to pledge its loyalty to the Big 12, which is trying to solidify its future with the potential loss of Nebraska and a pending offer from the Pac-10 Conference to six of its members, including Texas and Oklahoma.
Whether Mizzou's prolonged silence on the prospect of joining the Big Ten -- and thereby substantially enhancing its athletic revenue and academic standing -- is a reflection of discretion or of having nothing in hand to discuss remains a matter of conjecture to all but a select few. The chancellor's office and athletic department declined to comment again Wednesday.

But the meetings come as months of expansion speculation, spurred by the Big Ten's announcement in December that it was exploring doing so, seem to be yielding to actual developments.

Just three weeks after Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said a decision on expansion was months away, Nebraska apparently intends to accept an offer to join the Big Ten in what may prove the catalyst to the dismantling of the Big 12.

Nebraska's departure could prompt Texas, Oklahoma and other Big 12 South schools to accept an offer from the Pac-10, which is "locked and loaded" to act, according to the Los Angeles Times.

But one well-connected college administrator questioned why those schools wouldn't stand pat rather than accept the offer, which while potentially lucrative because of a bigger television contract for football could pose significant logistical challenges in the non-revenue/Olympic sports.

Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione said Wednesday that his school has not met with the Pac-10, has no offer to go and continues "to work diligently to keep our conference strong."

Castiglione, formerly athletic director at Missouri, also questioned the logic of domino theories that college football is headed toward four 16-team super conferences.

"I'm still trying to get my mind around why that's better than what we already have," said Castiglione, who laughed and added, "I've never understood why people don't see that if super teams come together to make a super conference, they don't all stay super every year."

The Big 12 could hold steady with 11 schools and petition to maintain a championship game in football, or it could seek to add one or more schools.

But with Colorado's regents having met Tuesday to discuss legal issues pertaining to a potential move to the Pac-10, and Texas and Texas A&M holding a joint meeting to discuss their future Thursday, the stability of the Big 12 figures to be a question for months to come.

And if the conference ultimately splinters and Mizzou has no Big Ten offer, Missouri would be left in limbo.

As unlikely as that scenario seems, there is no definitive way to see the Big 12's future or handicap MU's Big Ten candidacy.

In many ways, the school has a similar profile to Big Ten institutions, including being a member of the 63-school Association of American Universities. And MU's most high-profile sports, football and men's basketball, apparently would be competitive fits in the conference.

Lending further cause for optimism for MU fans, a source involved with past Big Ten expansion studies said he would "find it hard to believe the Big Ten would take Nebraska by itself."

Some believe the 11-team league would need to increase to 14 schools to add enough value to generate enough additional revenue to justify the extra mouths to feed. Delany told the Post-Dispatch on Sunday that the league could do its expansion in phases. So the reported invitation of Nebraska could just be the first step.

The Big Ten's overall revenue and philosophy of dividing it equally are appealing to Missouri, which received less than $10 million from the Big 12 last year in contrast to the $19.9 million Illinois got from the Big Ten.

The uneven revenue sharing in the Big 12, as well as perceived Big 12 slights in several of MU's football bowl assignments, are at the core of MU's displeasure with the Big 12.

That in turn has created rancor with MU in the Big 12, with several sources expressing anger at Mizzou for letting it be known it was interested in the Big Ten -- which some in the Big 12 don't believe is reciprocating.

"Now Missouri potentially has burned bridges in two places," said one conference source, though noting that there's no reason there can't be reconciliation.

Although Delany mentioned the possibility of expanding in "stages," the question becomes if not now, when for Missouri?

One way or another, it's all certain to be a topic for the curators, who would have to approve any conference change.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I've never seen this wickedson guy post before but he's already hit elite territory, like Como level.

We'll see.

[healthpellets]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

And OJ Mayo was straight up getting paid.

was Mayo the QB that year? i don't recall...

[Mecca]

I really could give 2 shits about OJ Mayo or the basketball shit, the football shit is over the top.