Other Sports Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment - Page 157

Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

**DeezNutz** · 06-08-2010, 04:18 PM

Headline: Pulling out blows up in Kansas' face

Titty Meat · 06-08-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Just posted on ESPN...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5265439

KU may be without major conference

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- For the Kansas Jayhawks and their proud basketball heritage, all this could not be more demeaning.

All of a sudden, Kansas' status as a major player in college athletics has been placed in the hands of Nebraska and -- humiliation of humiliations -- archrival Missouri.

While those two decide whether to abandon the Big 12 for the more lucrative Big Ten, Kansas sits and sweats. A pullout by the Huskers and Tigers could result in the collapse of the Big 12 and strip Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State of the safety and privileges of membership in a Bowl Championship Series conference.

What about the Jayhawks' attractive basketball program, with three national championships, 53 conference titles and 147 consecutive home sellouts? Where conference expansion is concerned, it apparently counts for nothing. Expansion is all about football and television markets.

While the Huskers and Tigers ponder a move to the Big Ten, there are reports -- not denied by the commissioner -- that the Pac-10 may try to snatch away six other Big 12 schools.

If big-time college sports suddenly embarks on an eat-or-be-eaten explosion of expansion, the Jayhawks' great basketball tradition may not hold any more value than the tennis team.

"It's driving me nuts," coach Bill Self said Tuesday.

Melanie Rollins, a 19-year-old sophomore walking past historic Allen Fieldhouse on her way to class, added: "This is just breaking my heart."

Football has had its moments at the school where Wilt Chamberlain played and basketball inventor James Naismith coached. Nearly 40 years ago, Gale Sayers first flashed his classic moves in creaky old Memorial Stadium. Just two years ago, the Jayhawks upset Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl for their first victory in a BCS bowl.

But last year, Kansas ended the season on a long losing streak and fired the coach.

Now, a lack of football strength and a paucity of people in a sparsely populated state could leave Kansas and Kansas State both fenced off from a major conference.

"I can hardly believe that we've won three national championships and our football team won the Orange Bowl in the past two years and basically, we could come away with nothing to show for that, that we would be penalized because we live in an area that's not as populated as other areas," Self said.

"This is bad for us. It's really bad for Kansas and Kansas State both. I don't get it. Well, OK, I get it. But I don't like it."

Kansas politicians are calling their counterparts in Nebraska and Missouri, urging them to pressure their schools to stay put. The presidents of Kansas and Kansas State are phoning CEOs at Nebraska and Missouri. Both football coaches at Kansas and Kansas State have contacted Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne to plead their case.

But as hundreds of youngsters gathered Tuesday for Self's popular basketball camp, the 2009 consensus national coach of the year sounded a warning for colleagues around the country.

"Football is driving the bus," Self said. "There's no question. I'm sure the higher-ups would say it's an entire university situation, but I don't believe that to be the case at all. That's a piece of the equation. But the biggest piece is football.

"To actually change the whole scope of athletics and leave some schools out in the cold that have meant so much for the NCAA and for other institutions, to me, is a pretty tough pill to swallow."

Kansas State president Kirk Schulz attended two days of meetings with other Big 12 executives last week and was disappointed that so little attention was given during expansion talk to the welfare of student-athletes.

"I have a strong concern that we've sort of lost sight of what it is that we're trying to do, with some of these conference realignments," Schulz said. "That was not a strong point at the presidents' meeting."

In the meantime, Kansas sits and stews, waiting for others to determine its fate.

"At first, I thought all this was a joke," said Allison Emmot, who graduated from Kansas a few weeks ago and counts basketball games in Allen Fieldhouse as one of the best parts of her college experience.

"Kansas basketball has such a history. It's shocking that it isn't thought of at all in this."

Meanwhile, Colorado's Board of Regents will meet in secret Tuesday to receive legal advice about the school's possible switch from the Big 12 to the Pac-10, sources told the Boulder Camera.

The university doesn't anticipate any formal action to result from the discussion.

Athletic director Mike Bohn told the newspaper last week that he and other school officials have been led to believe the Pac-10 is on the verge of issuing invitations to six schools in the Big 12 to join its league, including Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.

This can't be true the Beaker fans told me Nebraska doesn't matter anymore. This isn't last decade.

Bambi · 06-08-2010, 04:21 PM

MU getting restless?

**Bugeater** · 06-08-2010, 04:21 PM

http://www.texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1092201

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There is growing speculation from other Big 12 members that Tuesday night's meeting among Colorado University leaders is to discuss the legality of bolting the Big 12 right now to accept an invitation from another conference, two sources told Orangebloods.com.

Colorado is expected to have a major announcement on Wednesday, sources said.

|Zach| · 06-08-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

MU fans, you can probably stop bringing up the "welcome to some shitty conference KU, hahahahaha" shit. It's akin to gloating about winning the lottery to your [now much poorer] neighbor when he has been more successful the whole time. It's not like you school ACHIEVED anything. See, Nebraska can probably gloat, but for some reason they aren't (save the resident NU reerun).

I will sleep fine tonight.

vailpass · 06-08-2010, 04:23 PM

"If big-time college sports suddenly embarks on an eat-or-be-eaten explosion of expansion, the Jayhawks' great basketball tradition may not hold any more value than the tennis team."

"The presidents of Kansas and Kansas State are phoning CEOs at Nebraska and Missouri. Both football coaches at Kansas and Kansas State have contacted Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne to plead their case."

vailpass · 06-08-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

http://www.texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1092201

Where would CU bolt to? I thought Pac10 wanted Texas and was coming around to taking Baylor to get them, leaving CU out?

teedubya · 06-08-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

"If big-time college sports suddenly embarks on an eat-or-be-eaten explosion of expansion, the Jayhawks' great basketball tradition may not hold any more value than the tennis team."

Please don't say that around Zach... you wouldn't like him when he is hungry.

BWillie · 06-08-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And there are a LOT of people that DO agree with that logic, because there is no tournament.

CFB shouldn't get a pass when CBB was smart enough to realize a tournament or playoff is a better indicator of a champion than a ****ing vote.

Actually, the college football champion usually is more deserving than the NCAA Tournament champion. It just ads to controversy because it's up to voters and not games. There is usually more luck to the NCAA tournament champion to be honest w/ you. However, in the last five years, you can make an argument that the best team won the NCAA Tournament. But there are countless times where this certainly isn't the case.

For example, in 1988, Kansas wasn't the best team, but they won the championship. They played the best in that stretch, but no way they were the best team even though the Big 8 was stacked that yr.

Titty Meat · 06-08-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

MU fans, you can probably stop bringing up the "welcome to some shitty conference KU, hahahahaha" shit. It's akin to gloating about winning the lottery to your [now much poorer] neighbor when he has been more successful the whole time. It's not like you school ACHIEVED anything. See, Nebraska can probably gloat, but for some reason they aren't (save the resident NU reerun).

It's just funny seeing you and the other beaker fans cry til your labia bleeds knowing that your team isn't relevant.

ChiefsCountry · 06-08-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Better than MVC.

http://www.mvc-sports.com/ViewArticl...CLID=204862353

Frazod · 06-08-2010, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike

MU fans, you can probably stop bringing up the "welcome to some shitty conference KU, hahahahaha" shit. It's akin to gloating about winning the lottery to your [now much poorer] neighbor when he has been more successful the whole time. It's not like you school ACHIEVED anything. See, Nebraska can probably gloat, but for some reason they aren't (save the resident NU reerun).

Every time I start to feel bad about this, I read one of your posts, and I get over it.

You know who deserves this shit? YOU. Enjoy it. I know I will.

Tactical Funky · 06-08-2010, 04:27 PM

God, it would categorically suck if KU were left in the dust and forced to join the MWC. I can foresee a scenario where KU basketball remains in a power conference but football is relegated to mid-major status. That would still suck but not quite as much.

I still have hope that KU has enough pull to land somewhere beside a ****ing mid-major conference...

Some hope.

**Bugeater** · 06-08-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Where would CU bolt to? I thought Pac10 wanted Texas and was coming around to taking Baylor to get them, leaving CU out?

CU is trying to beat them to the punch.

**Bugeater** · 06-08-2010, 04:28 PM

Oh, and since Metrolike said it's OK for us to gloat, I'll go ahead and leave this right here...

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