Other Sports Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment - Page 156

Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

|Zach| · 06-08-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Maybee Texas would wise up and realize that if they don't share voluntarily they will be forced to.

Good luck with all of that.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-08-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

I think you come off as an MU fan and considering that ROY isn't known to pay 100% attention to any given thread, I can see why he would assume that.

How the **** do I come off as a MU fan?

Because I'm willing to tell "douchebag" KU fans that, in fact, their shit DOES stink?

Point taken on Roy's attention span.

Sully · 06-08-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

MU fans have little brother syndrome when it comes to KU and athletics.

So does Payton Manning.

|Zach| · 06-08-2010, 04:13 PM

Pants · 06-08-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

How the **** do I come off as a MU fan?

Because I'm willing to tell "douchebag" KU fans that, in fact, their shit DOES stink?

I guess. I don't know, I assumed you were one until you came out and said that you have no dog in this fight.

ArrowheadHawk · 06-08-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Better than MVC.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-08-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

How fun is it going to be to tell recruits that they get to play the likes of Wyoming and Air Force twice a year?

Huge selling point.

Yet some of you are still in denial.

|Zach| · 06-08-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Better than MVC.

New slogan?

ArrowheadHawk · 06-08-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

How fun is it going to be to tell recruits that they get to play the likes of Wyoming and Air Force twice a year?

Huge selling point.

Yet some of you are still in denial.

Did I miss the anouncement that this was a done deal?

Titty Meat · 06-08-2010, 04:16 PM

So this is the history that awaits.

ArrowheadHawk · 06-08-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

New slogan?

Sure as hell beats history awaits.

But seriously I'm not gonna sweat it unless/until its official.

teedubya · 06-08-2010, 04:16 PM

If only Texas and Texas A&M had joined the SEC like they wanted in 1994...

|Zach| · 06-08-2010, 04:16 PM

Just posted on ESPN...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5265439

KU may be without major conference

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- For the Kansas Jayhawks and their proud basketball heritage, all this could not be more demeaning.

All of a sudden, Kansas' status as a major player in college athletics has been placed in the hands of Nebraska and -- humiliation of humiliations -- archrival Missouri.

While those two decide whether to abandon the Big 12 for the more lucrative Big Ten, Kansas sits and sweats. A pullout by the Huskers and Tigers could result in the collapse of the Big 12 and strip Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State of the safety and privileges of membership in a Bowl Championship Series conference.

What about the Jayhawks' attractive basketball program, with three national championships, 53 conference titles and 147 consecutive home sellouts? Where conference expansion is concerned, it apparently counts for nothing. Expansion is all about football and television markets.

While the Huskers and Tigers ponder a move to the Big Ten, there are reports -- not denied by the commissioner -- that the Pac-10 may try to snatch away six other Big 12 schools.

If big-time college sports suddenly embarks on an eat-or-be-eaten explosion of expansion, the Jayhawks' great basketball tradition may not hold any more value than the tennis team.

"It's driving me nuts," coach Bill Self said Tuesday.

Melanie Rollins, a 19-year-old sophomore walking past historic Allen Fieldhouse on her way to class, added: "This is just breaking my heart."

Football has had its moments at the school where Wilt Chamberlain played and basketball inventor James Naismith coached. Nearly 40 years ago, Gale Sayers first flashed his classic moves in creaky old Memorial Stadium. Just two years ago, the Jayhawks upset Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl for their first victory in a BCS bowl.

But last year, Kansas ended the season on a long losing streak and fired the coach.

Now, a lack of football strength and a paucity of people in a sparsely populated state could leave Kansas and Kansas State both fenced off from a major conference.

"I can hardly believe that we've won three national championships and our football team won the Orange Bowl in the past two years and basically, we could come away with nothing to show for that, that we would be penalized because we live in an area that's not as populated as other areas," Self said.

"This is bad for us. It's really bad for Kansas and Kansas State both. I don't get it. Well, OK, I get it. But I don't like it."

Kansas politicians are calling their counterparts in Nebraska and Missouri, urging them to pressure their schools to stay put. The presidents of Kansas and Kansas State are phoning CEOs at Nebraska and Missouri. Both football coaches at Kansas and Kansas State have contacted Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne to plead their case.

But as hundreds of youngsters gathered Tuesday for Self's popular basketball camp, the 2009 consensus national coach of the year sounded a warning for colleagues around the country.

"Football is driving the bus," Self said. "There's no question. I'm sure the higher-ups would say it's an entire university situation, but I don't believe that to be the case at all. That's a piece of the equation. But the biggest piece is football.

"To actually change the whole scope of athletics and leave some schools out in the cold that have meant so much for the NCAA and for other institutions, to me, is a pretty tough pill to swallow."

Kansas State president Kirk Schulz attended two days of meetings with other Big 12 executives last week and was disappointed that so little attention was given during expansion talk to the welfare of student-athletes.

"I have a strong concern that we've sort of lost sight of what it is that we're trying to do, with some of these conference realignments," Schulz said. "That was not a strong point at the presidents' meeting."

In the meantime, Kansas sits and stews, waiting for others to determine its fate.

"At first, I thought all this was a joke," said Allison Emmot, who graduated from Kansas a few weeks ago and counts basketball games in Allen Fieldhouse as one of the best parts of her college experience.

"Kansas basketball has such a history. It's shocking that it isn't thought of at all in this."

Meanwhile, Colorado's Board of Regents will meet in secret Tuesday to receive legal advice about the school's possible switch from the Big 12 to the Pac-10, sources told the Boulder Camera.

The university doesn't anticipate any formal action to result from the discussion.

Athletic director Mike Bohn told the newspaper last week that he and other school officials have been led to believe the Pac-10 is on the verge of issuing invitations to six schools in the Big 12 to join its league, including Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.

DJ's left nut · 06-08-2010, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Maybee Texas would wise up and realize that if they don't share voluntarily they will be forced to.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

uh...nope.

Texas is going to do whatever the hell it wants to because it knows that the B12 will let it. Texas can essentially fold the B12 on a whim - why would it concede anything?

And Texas could survive as an independant, so the threat of the league collapsing around it doesn't even carry any weight.

Nope - Texas is going to continue to insist on a significantly larger share and it will continue to insist on its own TV network. The B12 made a deal with the devil and now the bill is due...

Pants · 06-08-2010, 04:17 PM

MU fans, you can probably stop bringing up the "welcome to some shitty conference KU, hahahahaha" shit. It's akin to gloating about winning the lottery to your [now much poorer] neighbor when he has been more successful the whole time. It's not like you school ACHIEVED anything. See, Nebraska can probably gloat, but for some reason they aren't (save the resident NU reerun).

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\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3186768	Just posted on ESPN... http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5265439 KU may be without major conference LAWRENCE, Kan. -- For the Kansas Jayhawks and their proud basketball heritage, all this could not be more demeaning. All of a sudden, Kansas' status as a major player in college athletics has been placed in the hands of Nebraska and -- humiliation of humiliations -- archrival Missouri. While those two decide whether to abandon the Big 12 for the more lucrative Big Ten, Kansas sits and sweats. A pullout by the Huskers and Tigers could result in the collapse of the Big 12 and strip Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State of the safety and privileges of membership in a Bowl Championship Series conference. What about the Jayhawks' attractive basketball program, with three national championships, 53 conference titles and 147 consecutive home sellouts? Where conference expansion is concerned, it apparently counts for nothing. Expansion is all about football and television markets. While the Huskers and Tigers ponder a move to the Big Ten, there are reports -- not denied by the commissioner -- that the Pac-10 may try to snatch away six other Big 12 schools. If big-time college sports suddenly embarks on an eat-or-be-eaten explosion of expansion, the Jayhawks' great basketball tradition may not hold any more value than the tennis team. "It's driving me nuts," coach Bill Self said Tuesday. Melanie Rollins, a 19-year-old sophomore walking past historic Allen Fieldhouse on her way to class, added: "This is just breaking my heart." Football has had its moments at the school where Wilt Chamberlain played and basketball inventor James Naismith coached. Nearly 40 years ago, Gale Sayers first flashed his classic moves in creaky old Memorial Stadium. Just two years ago, the Jayhawks upset Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl for their first victory in a BCS bowl. But last year, Kansas ended the season on a long losing streak and fired the coach. Now, a lack of football strength and a paucity of people in a sparsely populated state could leave Kansas and Kansas State both fenced off from a major conference. "I can hardly believe that we've won three national championships and our football team won the Orange Bowl in the past two years and basically, we could come away with nothing to show for that, that we would be penalized because we live in an area that's not as populated as other areas," Self said. "This is bad for us. It's really bad for Kansas and Kansas State both. I don't get it. Well, OK, I get it. But I don't like it." Kansas politicians are calling their counterparts in Nebraska and Missouri, urging them to pressure their schools to stay put. The presidents of Kansas and Kansas State are phoning CEOs at Nebraska and Missouri. Both football coaches at Kansas and Kansas State have contacted Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne to plead their case. But as hundreds of youngsters gathered Tuesday for Self's popular basketball camp, the 2009 consensus national coach of the year sounded a warning for colleagues around the country. "Football is driving the bus," Self said. "There's no question. I'm sure the higher-ups would say it's an entire university situation, but I don't believe that to be the case at all. That's a piece of the equation. But the biggest piece is football. "To actually change the whole scope of athletics and leave some schools out in the cold that have meant so much for the NCAA and for other institutions, to me, is a pretty tough pill to swallow." Kansas State president Kirk Schulz attended two days of meetings with other Big 12 executives last week and was disappointed that so little attention was given during expansion talk to the welfare of student-athletes. "I have a strong concern that we've sort of lost sight of what it is that we're trying to do, with some of these conference realignments," Schulz said. "That was not a strong point at the presidents' meeting." In the meantime, Kansas sits and stews, waiting for others to determine its fate. "At first, I thought all this was a joke," said Allison Emmot, who graduated from Kansas a few weeks ago and counts basketball games in Allen Fieldhouse as one of the best parts of her college experience. "Kansas basketball has such a history. It's shocking that it isn't thought of at all in this." Meanwhile, Colorado's Board of Regents will meet in secret Tuesday to receive legal advice about the school's possible switch from the Big 12 to the Pac-10, sources told the Boulder Camera. The university doesn't anticipate any formal action to result from the discussion. Athletic director Mike Bohn told the newspaper last week that he and other school officials have been led to believe the Pac-10 is on the verge of issuing invitations to six schools in the Big 12 to join its league, including Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.
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