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Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

Pitt Gorilla · 06-08-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

I think what KU fans are trying to say is people are discounting basketball. We understand Football is the #1 revenue making sport, but by far and large basketball is #2. And it's not even close between #1 to #2 or #2 to #3.

Basketball is being discounted by those that matter: the conferences.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-08-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

The fact that you think UK falls behind anyone else says a lot about your knowledge of CBB history. UCLA is defined by one era, just like Duke (well, better than Duke seeing as they won in 95 too). It also happens that UCLA cheated to be the success they were, but that's not the point.

Like I said, it was for fun. Chill.

How's this?

1a-d = UNC, UK, UCLA, Duke. No particular order.

Arguments can be made for all of them, again depending on personal perspective.

What era is KU defined by?

The 50's, the 80's or now?

Funny how other programs are defined by eras, yet they all have more titles while having fewer years of history in which to do so.

KU's the oldest program of the group with the fewest championships.

I don't see how that makes them a "King" while the others are just "powerhouses."

vailpass · 06-08-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Iowa is beyond dominant in wrestling. They wrapped up the freaking title prior to the final day. Unreal. I'm just glad UNI went to that tree for their next coach.

The Dan Gable tree has many, many branches. UNI's athletics program is really impressing me over the last few years. I used to watch Darrell Mudra and his boys rule the Gateway but IMHO Panther athletics is overall better than it has ever been.

Pants · 06-08-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Like I said, it was for fun. Chill.

How's this?

1a-d = UNC, UK, UCLA, Duke. No particular order.

Arguments can be made for all of them, again depending on personal perspective.

What era is KU defined by?

The 50's, the 80's or now?

Funny how other programs are defined by eras, yet they all have more titles while having fewer years of history in which to do so.

KU's the oldest program of the group with the fewest championships.

I don't see how that makes them a "King" while the others are just "powerhouses."

UK, UNC and KU are not defined by eras because they have always won. Duke and UCLA are defined by eras.

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**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-08-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

What about Michigan State? That team never gets the credit it deserves.

Definitely Top 5-10, IMO.

Again, there are several teams you could argue for depending on your personal perspective.

vailpass · 06-08-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

What does any of this have to do with what I said? Iowa has no tradition, KU does. Tradition has nothing to do with what is about to happen.

Iowa has plenty of tradition, we also aren't facing being relegated to collegiate athletic oblivion.
The butthurt coming out of you is strong, for your sake I hope a reputable conference will throw KU a mercy **** and let them come occupy their basement.

chiefsnorth · 06-08-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

KU has done it 5 times, actually. Seeing as there was no NCAA tournament when they won it the 1st 2 times, they're usually counted as National Championships.

Those two before there was a tournament, during the Warren G. Harding administration, don't seem so relevant 90 years later.
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|Zach| · 06-08-2010, 03:05 PM

This thread is off the rails!

OT: I got commissioned by a design firm in NC to shoot at Mizzou on Friday. Should be fun.

Pants · 06-08-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Iowa has plenty of tradition, we also aren't facing being relegated to collegiate athletic oblivion.
The butthurt coming out of you is strong, for your sake I hope a reputable conference will throw KU a mercy **** and let them come occupy their basement.

No, Iowa has no tradition. Like I said again, I'm not butthurt at all over this. I'm pretty sad to see KU being in this position, but I'm also a realist and I realize that money rules the world. MU provides TVs, NU provides football, which happen to be 2 of the things that provide the most money. You can keep bringing up the fact that KU isn't invited to the party till you're blue in the face, it still doesn't change the fact that KU is a blueblood in a major sport while Iowa doesn't even come close. That's all I'm saying man, there's no need for the vitriol, because it actually makes you sound butthurt.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-08-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

UK, UNC and KU are not defined by eras because they have always won. Duke and UCLA are defined by eras.

Always won WHAT?

Regular season games? Conference championships? Last I checked, Duke is less than 100 wins behind KU in program wins, yet KU has an advantage of 7 or 8 seasons played. Is it really that unreasonable to think that they wouldn't/couldn't have won 12 or 13 wins a year had they started pre-1900 like KU?

KU has a 20 year head start on UCLA, and yet UCLA is only approximately 400 wins behind. Is it really that unreasonable to think that they wouldn't/couldn't have won 16 games a year had they started pre-1900 like KU?

Is it still hard to win championships, or not?

vailpass · 06-08-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

This thread is off the rails!

OT: I got commissioned by a design firm in NC to shoot at Mizzou on Friday. Should be fun.

Congrats Zach. Referral business, word of mouth, did you bid the job or cold call?

vailpass · 06-08-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

No, Iowa has no tradition. Like I said again, I'm not butthurt at all over this. I'm pretty sad to see KU being in this position, but I'm also a realist and I realize that money rules the world. MU provides TVs, NU provides football, which happen to be 2 of the things that provide the most money. You can keep bringing up the fact that KU isn't invited to the party till you're blue in the face, it still doesn't change the fact that KU is a blueblood in a major sport while Iowa doesn't even come close. That's all I'm saying man, there's no need for the vitriol, because it actually makes you sound butthurt.

It's getting harder to hear you KU, you are fading out............

Mojo Jojo · 06-08-2010, 03:12 PM

Does anyone here understand these deals are based on revenue...not tradition? MU to the Big 10 completes the St. Louis market with Illinois and adds 1/2 the KC market. NU brings a whole state of Nebraska. Texas schools...nuff said. KU, KSU, ISU offer nothing for revenue for one of the new super conferences.

|Zach| · 06-08-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Congrats Zach. Referral business, word of mouth, did you bid the job or cold call?

They kind of came to me, used one of my shots for a design of Missouri's athletic facilities and after we agreed to those terms we struck up a relationship.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-08-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

This thread is off the rails!

OT: I got commissioned by a design firm in NC to shoot at Mizzou on Friday. Should be fun.

It needed to regain its burst.

Plus, it's better than the alternative right now - talking Chiefs.

Congrats on the job, Zach.

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